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Grampians Access 2019 20-Jun-2019 At 10:02:54 PM One Day Hero

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On 20-Jun-2019 Ithomas wrote:
>I think you should stop obsessing about that. You do
>not know what I have climbed (it’s much more than you think) and in any
>case, my climbing history is totally irrelevant to the discussion.

Your history (and your future) in climbing are entirely relevant. Now that Gerry has chimed in, let me walk you through worked example. I couldn't give a flying fuch about the closure of Hillwood. It's a poorly conceived, mediocre pile of choss which was developed in a lame fashion. I was never going to go back there anyway because that bumbly crag with its complete lack of climbing lines wasn't even worth visiting, let alone bolting. Therefore the closure doesn't affect me at all. I have some sympathy for Gerry since he's obviously attached to the place, but I'm hardly likely to try and help out in any meaningful way.

It would be nice if you could admit (to yourself at least) that your personal investment in and connection to the contentious Victorian areas are similar to my connection to Hillwood. Dave, on the other hand, has probably spent more time in the affected areas of the Grampians than any other living person (climber or non climber). I'm substantially more interested in his take on the matter than I am in your armchair assessments.

>If I
>were a suspicious type I might suspect that have been stalking me.

I'm writing the ACT climbing guide (with a couple of others), I know where you were and what you were doing on any given weekend between about '76 and '80 :)