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Grampians Access 2019 20-Jun-2019 At 6:24:12 AM Ithomas

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ODH: Maybe you should focus on the main game here which is how to fit rock climbing into a new future where Indigenous rights are protected and climbers still able to climb. It would be possible if climbers approach the crisis in good faith. The problem will not go away or be dismissed with talk about fights or climbers rights. To borrow a phrase: Indigenous people always have been and always will be struggling to regain their rights. Climbers, like any other interest group have to come to terms with that struggle. You have hijacked this discussion with ill considered comments about my climbing history. I think you should stop obsessing about that. You do not know what I have climbed (it’s much more than you think) and in any case, my climbing history is totally irrelevant to the discussion. If I were a suspicious type I might suspect that have been stalking me. If that’s the case, you need to improve your surveillance techniques. Your real estate comment is premature and off the mark too. People of Natimuk might consider that the future holds an opportunity for the area to remain a Mecca for climbing as well as a focus for indigenous and environmentally friendly tourism. Playing the smart-arse and cursing will not give you entry into the real discussion.