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Grampians Access 2019 19-Jun-2019 At 10:04:03 PM One Day Hero

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On 19-Jun-2019 Ithomas wrote:
>ODH: What a crock of shite. Just because I could not climb today's stuff
>because of my age is no reason to dismiss my views. In fact, while I agree
>that I could not ever climb to such a standard, I fail to see any valid
>argument at all in that proposition.

Really? You have have no skin in the game, Ian. Of course you're prepared to give up some crags. You've probably never visited those crags and wouldn't be able to climb on them anyway. When it comes to Taipan, how is your opinion more worthwhile than that of Agnes from Toorak commenting on an ABC article ("Those climbers should just find other cliffs climb on, or stick to artificial walls")? Fuch! If this whole thing had blown up in 2030, I'd just hang up the boots and call it good on climbing. Unfortunately, problems have arrived a decade early. I'm still in reasonable form and have ambitions in that bit of the world.

>The term which covers
>people who make such arguments is 'cunning but stupid'

Sounds like the sort of thing someone might say if they're educated and credentialed, but their arguments are so full of holes that you could drive a truck through with a billboard on the back which says "this is a pile of shit".

>The least serious but most laughable comment made is the absolute assertion
>that you know better than I (or anyone) about what constitutes a good cliff
>or good climbing. Tee Hee!

In this instance I do know better than you, because you lack first hand experience. Taipan and some of the banned Vic Range crags host a handful of the best pitches on planet Earth. I've recently been running around doing a few of the classics which you and John Smart put up on Ororral Ridge, and they're absolutely fantastic......but they pale into insignificance compared to the Grampians routes. Not the same league, not even the same sport.