Chockstone Forum

      Sponsored By
      ROCK
   HARDWARE

Chockstone Photography

Australian Landscape Prints

Chockstone Forum - General Discussion

General Climbing Discussion

Topic Date User

Grampians Access 2019 15-Mar-2019 At 9:51:49 AM johny

Message

I hope is a balanced
>outcome between access for climbing and protection of the significant sites
>for the first inhabitants.

PV released a written statement and got on the radio demonizing climbers for destroying Aboriginal Art sites. Although the two bolts placed near art sites were regrettable and hopefully the only instances, I think most climbers agree these isolated instances do nut justify a climbing ban in the entire N Grampians.

PV implied through these statements that they had a mandate from indigenous groups to ban all climbing in the SPA (most of the N Grampians). This is probably not true.

Its obvious that there is a schism in PV with some rogue element hell bent on banning climbing in the entire Grampians(Victoria?) and others in PV who realize this is a really bad idea. The SPA is suppose to ban other activities like bushwalking yet PV is not enforcing this. The fact that you guys can pay me to take you climbing in these areas should let you know how ridiculous the bans are. These bans will not last long. They simply can not.

There are two things I want everyone to understand.
1. This is NOT climbers vs indigenous Australians. PV has tried really hard to make it look like this but it is obviously more than this. My point here is do not feel like you are harming indigenous australians by wanting to reverse the bans. Do not feel guilty for being a climber. I do not believe PV represents indigenous Australians. PV is all over the place from top down, internally inconsistent and contradictory.

2.This ban can be reversed tomorrow. As demonstrated in the past and in very recent communcation, PV can (and probably will) reverse the ban immediately. Don't give up the fight. Contact Lily D'Ambrosio 9422 5171 lily.d’ambrosio@parliament.vic.gov.au and Emma Kealy (03) 5382 0097 emma.kealy@parliament.vic.gov.au.

Not sure if its worth calling PV. They have demonstrated to be entirely contradictory if not dishonest. As the last few days have shown you could be told its OK to climb in the SPA's or you could get fined $1600 by some wanna-be cop ranger in a tactical vest. Go to PV's bosses.