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Grampians Access 2019 15-Mar-2019 At 8:23:47 AM (removed)

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On 14-Mar-2019 Stugang wrote:
>... but it don’t really get us much toward the endgame which I hope is a balanced
>outcome between access for climbing and protection of the significant sites
>for the first inhabitants.

... and the environment.

I am utterly convinced that the items of environmental damage (some real and a lot perceived) including:
excessive chalk
bouldering mat vegetation damage
bolting
additional walking paths
litter (specifically dunny paper)
cliff-base erosion
... are the real issues they care about. The first inhabitants argument looks like a PV crutch to achieve these outcomes.

Let's be clear: PV don't want to ban us because they hate climbing as an activity, they want to ban us because they think it's wrecking the place. Any other interpretation is simply playing the victim card.