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Grampians Access 2019 11-Mar-2019 At 1:56:54 PM Bomber
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On 10-Mar-2019 The good Dr wrote:
>One of the sad, crazy and ironic things regarding the current furore is that the person responsible for the Black Ian's debacle is a guide who can continue to operate in the grampians.

>What is with this policy amongst climbers of 'he who must not be named' bullshit? I've seen this before in other states whereby an incident has occurred that has gone completely against what the majority of climbers believe in and uphold - only for the perpetrator to remain 'anonymous' despite several well known people having the knowledge of exactly who it was in the first place.

I haven’t been on this site for many years as I found that it was primarily run by a few individuals who if they disagree with what your saying just ban you from any further input
Neil Monteith you know what I’m talking about having banned me multiple times !!!
But I wanted to weigh in with my two cents worth as I’m very upset about the current situation in the Grampians.. so made a new profile to do so

A lot of people are angry that a couple of people have bolted in the Grampians, the focus has been on the individuals that bolted next to rock art... yes that was incredibly selfish and stupid, and it can not be allowed to ever happen again! But it’s not really about those two cases, it’s been common knowledge that the rate of expansion and the grid boltingof many many areas has been happening for many years now and I’ve been telling anybody who will listen that it’s got to stop!

A very special climb that is a three star classic is great and we all love those... but if you go and see all the cliffs that have been bolted because there are lines that will go... not good lines not even average lines, but complete rubbish, then you have to think why was this done? And then many here have also said “who” well I propose a bolt count in the Grampians... lets pick up our guide books and actually count who has placed the most bolts in the Grampians.

It’s going to be interesting to see when all this madness started and who is the culprit that started this ego driven bombardment of bolting that others have seen as the go ahead to follow suit... I’m looking at sport climbs in the Grampians, it’s a pretty telling story Neil

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