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Grampians Access 2019 10-Mar-2019 At 6:12:06 AM The good Dr

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On 9-Mar-2019 Rawpowa! wrote:
>On 9-Mar-2019 jrc wrote:
>>View from an occasional nsw visitor who appreciates Gariwerd - since
>1967
>>- James, I wouldn’t push it. If what you want to do needs a bolt maybe
>>Climb something else for now. Read what PV wrote.
>>
>>SPZs can grow faster than climbers. Weve seen that in the last month.
>>
>>I suspect the “we’re climbers - we know what we are doing - f you - we
>>will merrily bolt whatever” might just have worn a bit thin with authorities
>>and indigenous groups. Btw We are no better here in nsw maybe just luckier
>>- for the moment.
>>
>>Pilots who fly under the radar live longer ( unless they fly into the
>>radar mast).
>>
>>
>>
>Yes I agree John, maybe this was a negotiating tactic with the new management
>plan coming up. But I think there needs to be serious discussion about
>a ban on new routes in the Grampians. Let's face it anything that goes
>up now isn't going to be the killer lines. I guess it would mean maybe
>the climbing was limited at the cutting edge of climbing, but the route
>that apparently sparked this at Black Ian's was a woeful filler route that
>could have been protected with boulder pads and wouldn't have been climbed
>by anyone with half a brain after seeing the art there. Is it really worth
>poking the bear over these routes?

One of the sad, crazy and ironic things regarding the current furore is that the person responsible for the Black Ian's debacle is a guide who can continue to operate in the grampians.