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CliffCare Survey-Please help out 4-Jan-2019 At 4:31:42 PM kieranl

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Stu, first, I'm not involved in negotiations but would be astonished if anything had been determined at this stage.

I did read ODHs stuff pretty carefully.

Essentially he's putting up a strawman scenario that neotiations are going to be on a transactional basis, that one area will be traded off against another : I'll give you this if you give me that. The scenario of trading Muline for some minor crag is complete rubbish of course.

How are we going to deal with a major climbing site that has significant cultural heritage issues? They certainly exist and if it comes to a binary choice between cultural heritage and a first-world sport then I know which will win.

As to what anyone's climbing ability has to do with their negotiating skills? It's just elitism. Makes me sick.

There are going to be some difficult issues to deal with before this is through and name-calling doesn't help.