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Pre-placed quickdraws. 28-Aug-2018 At 6:05:08 AM jacksonclimbs

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I don't think you should really count your 10 even if you do place the draws, as the bolts were already pre-placed. It really only counts if you drill and place the bolts while you're on lead.

/serious - Which top climber said pre-placed draws was because it was too difficult to carry? I think it's just that sport climbers are happy to climb with the ethic that has developed around pre-placed draws. There is a good discussion of the issue on episode 143 of the Enormocast, HB gets a mention, and they discuss the term 'pink point' and whether it should be dropped. Found their take on it interesting, as they believe there is a sexist connotation to the term pink point. In the end they agree that there should be a term for climbing a trad route on pre-placed pro, but that it shouldn't be 'pink point'.

Enormocast 143 here