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Fixed gear guidelines in the Grampians 27-May-2018 At 6:57:34 PM jacksonclimbs

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On 27-May-2018 One Day Hero wrote:
>On 27-May-2018 jacksonclimbs wrote:
>>How do you gauge the level support for each opinion?
>
>It's not a referendum.

It doesn't have to be a referendum, but if CliffCare are representing the community in talks with PV etc. then I think the community should be consulted overall. Chockstone is a small subset of the climbing community, and, at least with most climbers I have interacted with in the Grampians, does not have a reputation as a place where civil and constructive debate can be conducted. You can review the Facebook posts of the CliffCare post and the commentary there which also supports this point.

>>about about another 50 sport climbs in the 12-17 range.
>
>You're kidding yourself. Easy sport climbing is a hungry beast with an
>insatiable appetite for new crags.

If that is the case, why don't we have hundreds of easy sport routes from that insatiable, hungry beast? What has stopped it from happening already?

>>As regard to styles
>>- some people have no interest in learning to climb trad or >mixed.
>
>And there is no reason why those people should be catered to. Learn to
>place gear, get better, toprope, or move to a sport climbing area.

Why should we cater to you, and not those climbers?