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Fixed gear guidelines in the Grampians 27-May-2018 At 4:04:33 PM jacksonclimbs

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On 27-May-2018 rightarmbad wrote:
>Just as likely to have bad falls just above the bolt than far above the
>bolt.
>Spacing needs to protect you from dangerous obstacles, not bad belaying.
>Spacing is not the critical, placement is.

All other things being equal, a longer fall creates a greater risk of injury.

>I haven't spoken because I already agree with what has been said, no need
>for me to respond, many others think the same.
>Do you really want 200 posts of the same thing just to prove there is
>support for an idea.

Support which idea?

>As long as points are raised and deliberated on it doesn't matter how
>many respond.

Isn't the point to get a broad range of opinions? Community consultation in other spheres usually involves trying to garner as wide an audience of opinions as possible. Assuming that others agree with what has been said is just assumption, and I'd argue that all of us stay somewhat within our climbing circles where others share the same 'ethics', so it's easy to assume everyone agrees with you, when they may not.

>Do you really think there is only a handful of fully bolted easy routes
>in the area under discussion?

I had thecrag open while determining those numbers; I think these numbers don't reflect routes that are classed as 'sport' routes, but that would not be that accessible for someone who is climbing at closer to their limit for that grade.

17 - 22 routes
16 - 15 routes
15 - 8 routes
14 - 2 routes