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Fixed gear guidelines in the Grampians 16-May-2018 At 7:55:17 AM bigchris

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>God, more meh. Spare me. They go back in, or they go in elsewhere, ad
>infinitum.

Yep. Agree.

FYI - I am watching this thread with great interest and having nothing of importance to add in regards to actually bolting anything or not. However it reminds me of my students in Year 8 arguing over the top of each other.

This thread is:

10 people v 1 person.

It's also 10 people talking about what they think is best for the entirety of rock climbing in Australia. You're all trying to do the right thing and that's really good. But in 87 responses to the the original post, no-one has gotten any closer to sorting anything out. And even if you did magically sort anything out, you've probably reached less than 1% of the climbing community in Australia, let alone the rest of the world.

I get that there is a thing called 'local ethics' that we all should adhere to, but as previously stated, its unlikely that this is always going to happen. If you see a line that you can climb that needs some bolts, who's going to be there to stop you from putting them in?

Many people have boycotted this website because of threads like this. I, on the other hand, am finding it entertaining to watch everyone try and yell over the top of each other via a keyboard.

Just in case you didn't know, you can buy yourself a sweet hammer drill from Bunnings for $200 and a handful of bolts for $30, which makes bolting more accessible than listening to people arguing about it.

I actually have no idea where I was going with this but I did have a long-forgotten point :D