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Fixed gear guidelines in the Grampians 14-May-2018 At 12:54:00 PM (removed)

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On 14-May-2018 armstp wrote:
>I should note that I only raised PV in the discussion because some people
>seemed to hope that they could be used to solve ethical climbing problems
>that only have meaning for climbers

Now you're trying to have it both ways - your previous post basically dismissed introducing PV as a factor and that any attempt to do so would be incorrect.

FTR, I object to over-bolting for 3 different but important reasons:
Possible future restrictions to access by land-managers
I want to retain as much of a trad ethic as possible since I consider it a purer form of climbing
Excessive visible bolting is ugly - even for me as a climber
Of these, the 2nd point is the principle reason for my arguments at Rosea, but it doesn't mean that i. and iii. aren't still factors.