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New bolt on Blimp - Bundaleer 11-May-2018 At 5:40:22 AM Wendy

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On 10-May-2018 Nmonteith wrote:
>I pulled a bunch of bolts out of the bizzare all bolt multipitch on the
>left side of the crag about 13 years ago. It was very easy when they hadn't
>been glued in yet!

This sounds like it was probably a reasonable action! I just don't get why people seem to think peopl can only ever go bolt mad or have none. People moderate their behaviour every day in all sorts of ways. I see chocolate in the supermarket. I buy one block, not the whole shelf. Why don't we teach people to reflect on their decisions rather than blanket rules which don't teach anyone anything? Especially in this case as it is a random post hoc rule that doesn't even reflect the state of the crag.

No one has yet grid bolted rosea. if the occasional mixed route or anchor goes up for in an unobstrusive, safe style, that seems entirely in keeping with the crag to me and we can all continue to be adults about discussing where we should draw the line if something controversial happens. setting an extreme position incongruent with the current state of the crag almost seems more likely to antagonise someone into going bolting. The system is working. It doesn't need fixing. How can we expect pv to trust climbers to self regulate if climbers don't trust climbers to self regulate?