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New anchors at Araps - What do you reckon? 10-Jan-2017 At 8:09:55 AM ajfclark

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On 9/01/2017 simey wrote:
>I haven't used the LWF rap descent, but I can't imagine that I will. Walking
>down Pharos Gully is pretty convenient in comparison. I usually walk down
>if I climb on the RWF too. It is faster and saves taking two ropes.

I did yesterday just to see what it's like.

Unless @egosan's ropes have shrunk a fair bit, the first abseil is a bit long perhaps? My 82kg + the rack barely got level with the bolts on stretch on a pair of 50m 7.9mm ropes. Threading the ropes at the top with the knot on the right they pulled fine for us, but I could see a lot of potential for things to go wrong. There's loads of bushes, loose rock, blocks, etc.

Speaking on things going wrong, there was a bit of an epic when he assumed he could get to the ground from there and ended up on a 10cm wide ledge 15m off the deck...

After getting him to the ground on a single 7.9mm rope, I rapped to the bolted belay on Hot Flap, way, way left (facing the cliff), pulled again, and then to the ground with still not oodles of rope left.

So 3 raps vs a quick walk down Pharos Gully. Even without the extra stuffing around, I think the walk is faster. With 60m ropes things might improve, but I'm still not sure you'll get to the ground from the Siren/Hot Flap anchor.