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Pioneers of Tassie's Best Climbs 24-Sep-2016 At 8:17:43 AM Jayford4321

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On 23/09/2016 ajfclark wrote:
>On 23/09/2016 Tastrad wrote:
>>and realized you've got a few runs on the board in terms of cliff development
>
>This thought keeps popping up again and again and I don't understand why
>you think people who've never put up routes can never have any idea what
>makes a quality route?
>
>Sure, they might not understand the effort that goes into them. Sure they
>might not understand that something that looked f---ing awesome from the
>ground turned out to be a grovelly, dirty shitpile, or why the bolts sometimes
>don't end up in the places people want them, etc but surely they can still
>tell whether or not a route is quality without having done an FA.
>
>Here's an analogy for you:
>
>I've never built a road. I've driven on roads in Australia, France, Italy,
>China, India, etc. I can tell you that most of the roads we have here are
>pretty reasonable and the roads in India are pretty shit (the one from
>Agra to Rathambore National Park is a standout in my memory). I can tell
>you that putting unmark 45 degree speedbumps on a 100kmph highway is shit,
>etc
>
>Now if I'd built a road, I might have a better understanding of why
>some of those roads ended up being shit, but it wouldn't change the fact
>that they were shit or that someone who'd never built a road could tell
>they were shit.

An with that anal-a-G tas-geez uh Gez, just became roadkill 4 not Cing tha flow of tha traffic.