Anyway ... enuf of that ... now ... this is from mr ' Tarbuster ' on Supertopo :
'... climbed Hotline with Kim Carrigan in 1980 and at that time he predicted that many of the great wall climbs in Yosemite and those of El Capitan particularly, would go free. I said to him: "even the PO?" He said yes. I was skeptical; it's happening, of course not on the PO, yet....'
Kim will have more to tell on this and other grouse things , in his book , due out sometime in 2016 ...
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