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Carrot failure @ Muline 25-Nov-2013 At 9:55:22 AM Kinetic

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On 25/11/2013 rodw wrote:
>On 24/11/2013 One Day Hero wrote:
>
>>No, it's about placing bolts which won't require smashing the rock to
>>remove when they eventually require replacement. Do you understand that
>>some people think those patched over scars next to every bolt are really
>>ugly and best avoided?
>
>Some people also view the loads of chalk that stays for ever on steep
>routes are an eye sore, or the rock scars for holds pulled off of etc during
>the many ascents or the trampling of bush tracks to the crag and general
>wear and erosion at the base..the list goes on if you want to use the 'some"
>people reasoning.
>
>No solution is going to be 100% accepted or even be perfect, but worrying
>about a patched over scar in 10, 20, 30 years time will most likely be
>the lesser impact of climbing caused in that time frame.

That's a good point. I think a hole in the rock is less damaging than the removal and trampling of vegetation around the bases of climbs, and the removal of lichen and mosses that occurs during the cleaning of new routes. Damaging actual ecosystems made of of living organisms is worse than damaging a bit of rock. I know as rock climbers most people are probably more concerned about the aesthetic appeal of the rock itself, but trashing the ecosystem around the crag is far more damaging.