Very well said Damo.
Quite sad to see people on this forum being so naive and ready to accept some kind of Western guilt to the extent that it turns to attempts to justify unjustifiable actions. Btw, I lived in Central Asia for many years, it's a different world guys. Yes, Taliban was created by Americans but this kind of massacre could have happened without Taliban.
And yes, Ukrainian and Russian climbers are in shock. For many of them, Nanga Parbat is/was a dream and many of them knew the deceased personally. Climbing community is quite big there but everyone knows each other anyway.
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