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Chockstone Forum - General Discussion

General Climbing Discussion

Poll Option Votes Graph
Neil will cave in 3
8% 
Macca will get sick of pestering and stop it 3
8% 
The "authorities" will step in and mediate 1
3% 
Neil will drive up and retrobolt Macca's clacka 16
44% 
It will never end 2
6% 
"Neil.....I am your faather" 5
14% 
"I've always loved you, Macca" 2
6% 
"I had a faarm in Aaafricaa" 4
11% 

Topic Date User
How's the Neil/Macca thing gonna pan out? 8-Apr-2013 At 2:34:59 PM uwhp510
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On 8/04/2013 Big G wrote:
>I think if you did an assesment of the damage caused to the environment
>by a cleaned crack climb vs a bolted face climb the difference would be
>marginal.

Well as long as you think it, then its most likely true. Nothing beats proof by thinking about things.

>Both cause devegetation, both lead to traffic at the base of
>the climb and subsequently damage, cracks are microclimates for plants
>and animals. changing these cracks has a bigger impact than the addition
>of steel bolts.

Impact on what/whom? For flora/fauna, sure it probably makes crap all difference either way, but to person (climber or non-climber) a gridbolted crag is obviously way less naturey. Also, all of the other stuff pales into insignificance against the extra traffic that bolted stuff seems to get.

>...and whats wrong with thinking of the lichen?

Surely we can all agree that lichen is the enemy :) (I fuchen hate those little mossy, fungusy bastards!)

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