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Easter at Arapiles 3-Apr-2013 At 4:39:31 PM simey
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On 3/04/2013 Wendy wrote:
>On 3/04/2013 simey wrote:
>>On 2/04/2013 Edward Oslabofvic wrote:
>>>On 2/04/2013 Wendy wrote:
>>>>Guys, I'm probably going to get viciously trolled for be a paranoid
>>feminist,
>>>>but do you think you'd be talking about them like this if they were
>>guys?
>>>> Making jokes about phone numbers, photos, commenting on their physical
>>>>appearance? No matter how obnoxious they are to camp next to, it's
>>almost
>>>>as unacceptable as pulling out a mallet on obnoxious campers and it
>>does
>>>>affect all the other women in the community to hear jokes and abuse
>>like
>>>>that.
>>>
>>>Yes. Yes. Yes. No. and the same goes for men.
>>
>>Totally agree Mr Oslabofvic. Given how the situation was initially described,
>>I don't think any of the comments are particularly sexist. I could totally
>>imagine many women making exactly the same joke, 'Did you get their number?'
>>if someone had described a bunch of unattractive bogan males keeping
>everyone
>>awake with talk about sex.
>>
>Oh bollocks to both of you ... where in the pages of abuse about camping
>near CJ did anyone make any comments about his physical attractiveness
>or otherwise, or his pickupability? In fact, where in any other thread
>about obnoxious campers (and there have been a few), are there references
>to the perpetrators' sexual attractions or not or possibility of them being
>sexually available? The lack of awareness of this sort of stuff by many
>people continues to amaze me. What it reinforces to women is no matter
>what they do, even when their actual behaviour is the problem, they will
>be judged upon their appearance and sexuality and that is what people will
>target when they have a go at them. These are the areas women are seen
>as vulnerable in. I don't think that's necessarily what people intended,
>but it is certainly a side effect.

Wendy, I really reckoned you have missed the point of the original post and you are trying to make comparisons to other situations which are really quite different. My understanding is that one of the offensive campers was loudly proclaiming their sexual prowess with other women. The subsequent jokes are relevant to the situation described. I reckon you are being a paranoid feminist.

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