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She sells sea shells - Point Perp 5-Mar-2013 At 4:51:29 PM rightarmbad

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Actually, finding Hotel California in it's original state would be marvelous.
I feel cheated that I never got down there to do it before it was sportized.

It has lost a large part of it's appeal for me now.

Same with Point Perp.
I want to go there because of it's adventure status and the fact that you have to be self sufficient and accept the commitment.

All these so called problems and safety concerns are occurring because the golden rule of not bolting next to trad placements is being broken.
Don't expect bolts where there are natural placements and you will not get into trouble.

What has happened that this perfectly good rule is now casually being broken?
Trad racks are cheaper than ever.
There are more avenues to learn than ever before.

Why are people so bloody impatient that they have to bolt the fruck out of everything?

Whoever pulled the bolts, thank you.

I can understand that some cliffs of the likes of the Bluies will have bolts added because the rock is not sound and placements may not have been as good as previous climbers who may never have fallen on them to test them believe.

I can understand that Nowra is a bolting wonderland.

But established areas with good rock, for frucks sake, continue their existence in their current ethic.
The only barriers to climbing them is your own incompetence.

Go the debolters, march on with the unheard backing of the many who don't normally post here.
And when you are finished down south, come up and have a field day in sunny Queensland.