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Self Regulation - What does it mean to you? 18-Jul-2012 At 2:37:11 PM armstp

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The big issue being avoided in this discussion is how do we get the commercial groups to buy into self regulation? We are talking about self regulation for real climbers when it seems that many of the problems at Victorian cliffs are caused by commercial groups. The VCC spends a lot of time and money fixing up cliffs [Summerday Valley, Youies, Werribee] that would not be anywhere near as trashed if commercial groups weren’t using them [200+ people under instruction were once counted on one day at Summerday]. We can self regulate all we like it won’t stop bus loads of school kids pulling up at Summerday and Royalty Wall. And it won’t make the commercial groups clean up their own mess. Ultimately any process has to find a way of including these groups. And it should be noted that there are a lot of outdoor ed teachers, and commercial instructors who are not climbers, who do not read guide books, are people who did a course so that they can set up an abseil or a top rope in order to get a job.