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Traveling and climbing in Victoria 22-Mar-2012 At 1:51:24 PM Dave J

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On 21/03/2012 Wendy wrote:
>I think the Gramps are spectacular. I was just saying yesterday walking
>out from Skyline Walls (yes I know, not the Gramps ...) at sunset that
>I love the look of the Australian landscape. Our rock, our trees, our
>wildlife, big skies, it's all fabulous. But in terms of the actual climbing,
>the Gallery and Muline each have a dozen routes of about 15m. That really
>doesn't compare to the Red, which has crag after crag of loads of routes
>some of them 100-140ft pitches. I can take or leave most of the sport
>climbing in the Northern Gramps, there's the odd fun route, but my fav
>stuff is the trad.
With all due respect Wendy, I'm not sure that you would have even been on any of what I consider to be the good sport routes in the Grampians Wendy. KPs list was a reasonably good start I thought.

>although Taipan is an amazing bit of rock. Even if
>I'm all the wrong proportions to climb on it. But even then, it's marred
>by crap bolting, and I've heard people fonder of it then I am suggest it
>is just a little repetitive in style.

I'd not heard that....and, having done most of the routes there, I've not experienced it either. I haven't climbed at the Red but I have climbed in a fair few other spots and some of the lines in the Grampians (particularly Taipan) stand out as being the best few lines I've climbed. And if you can climb 28 then you can pretty much have a good time on most of the best routes at most of the best crags in the Gramps which are as good or better than most of what Ive done elsewhere in the world (Wendy you'll be pleased to hear that you've still got the best of what the Grampians has to offer ahead of you).

From photos I've seen the Red seems a bit like the Blue Mountains in that it looks like a great spot to get fit but none of the routes really stand out as amazing lines.

It would be interesting to hear what someone who had done a lot of climbing at the Red had to say about all that though. So yevquest, come and visit.