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Dargan Creek Plan of Management Proposal 6-Feb-2012 At 11:31:44 AM Linze

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On 4/02/2012 Sonic wrote:
>On 4/02/2012 Climboholic wrote:
>
>>Read again, that's not what I'm saying.
>
>I must have missed something here -
>'Finally, I support the proposal to have climbers seek permission to bolt
>new routes in principal.'
>
>The word 'Support' carries a lot of weight, espescially coming from a
>climber in this instance. Look, I don't agree that putting that sentence
>into a submission is entirely clever. I think showing them I DON'T support
>their position and backing that up with the fact that self-regulation has
>worked effectively for christ-knows-how-long is a better way to go.

Then write your own submission... that is the point of the submissions process, you can input whatever you want, and it will be considered as part of the assessment process.
Climbaholic's submission includes some engagement with the policy, which is about 10000x more informed than many submissions from the public, which are often based on assumptions that the policy making body is as adversary that needs to be opposed at all costs. Like most policy makers, whoever is doing this work probably wants to do a good job and work out a way to manage a complex bunch of competing interests, maybe forget the "their position" mentality and use the submissions process as a way to share knowledge.