Yeah time and patience seem to be at a premium in these modern times, but I hear what your saying, I would also have loved that experience, but alas fall not the DIY camp.
thanks for the warm welcome, your @ 643 posts so you must have been here years ;)
So the question still stands shortman are there any harrowing examples of only just making it back to camp alive after being out on rock as a complete noob?
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