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Seating trad gear vs making your partner happy 16-Nov-2011 At 5:41:29 PM tskinner

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On 16/11/2011 nmonteith wrote:
>I've always been maligned by my seconds as someone who jams cams until
>they overcam and tug harshly to seats wires that are hard to get out. For
>me I just want to know that my trad gear is going to hold a fall and won't
>fall out once I climb past it (or wobble around to a position which won't
>hold a fall). In my mind as the person on lead my safety is way more paramount
>to the lesser annoyance of the second who has to get the gear back out.
>Very very rarely do I make an effort to place a piece of trad that will
>be easier for my second to remove. I just place the best possible bit of
>gear I can regardless of if it will come out easily again.
>
I must be an inconsiderate bastard then.
I like to seat my gear, no fairy placements for me!
I was quite happy to pull out my nut tool when seconding my partner (whom I did much of my early leading with) and never really thought too much of it. I probably place my gear like he does. The bonus of this is that I will perservere at getting a piece out and have learnt interesting ways to achieve this.
A few of my seconders have more than likely swore at me while trying to extract - still they say they would be happy to lob onto my gear. Cue Sarah.....
>Do others do the same thing? Or am I just an inconsiderate bastard?