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Bolting at Piddo 12-May-2011 At 2:43:39 PM Paz

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On 12/05/2011 tnd wrote:
>Wendy, you display a real lack of empathy, or at least understanding, of
>where some people are at in terms of what they are prepared to take on.
>e.g. "And you'd only have a days worth of climbing there if that". Some
>people will happily go back to the same routes time after time! They don't
>want to get outside their comfort zone too far. You say they should take
>up knitting or flower arranging or something, I say they have a right to
>a little adventure. Even at the grey slab or Bardens Lookout, they are
>25m up with space all around and the talus slope falling away below - hugely
>different experience from the gym. You or I wouldn't think twice about
>it but they are tremendously challenged.
>
>And "Is it worth creating a bunch more of easy sport routes of dubious
>quality just because people don't like the other options?". I say yes,
>you obviously disagree. So what if we take a little bit of nature and mould
>it to our desire? It's no different to how some places have treetop platforms
>for those who can't climb a tree, or glass bottom boats for those who don't
>scuba dive or snorkel.
>

Mould it to our desire? You've got to be f@cking kidding me.

I can't believe people actually want poxy low teen climbs bolted. What a joke. Sounds like a great idea moulding somewhere to suit someone's wants. Not needs. Next thing i'll be flicking on the tv to see some gridbolter taking fatties from the biggest loser up grade 12 bolted pox. but don't worry, they deserve to have the experience as well as anyone who's put in the effort to learn.....

If people aren't motivated enough to learn how to place wires and hexes or improve, they can stay in the gym or on limited slab/bolt routes. You can already see the quality of sport routes become worse as grades go down. Take The Ravine, what a pile of crap. Sure heaps of people probably enjoy it so they can do some easy ticks and slap each other on the ass later on, they have a great time. But the fact is, there are no LINE/s there, just f@cking jugs and bolts everywhere, rubbish on the ground, shite up the creek, and vegetation everywhere trampled....

The options for newbs are already there, unfortunately they seem to be outweighed by the excuses...