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Holds, T-nuts and Bolts
Olbert
20-Jan-2020
11:23:46 AM
So, as mentioned in an earlier thread, I'm building a woodie.

I'm now up to purchasing materials. Where do people get reasonably priced, reasonable quality T-nuts and bolts nowadays? I mistakenly thought they'd be a dime a dozen at Bunning.

And I'm in the market for holds too. Where do people get their reasonably priced, reasonably quality holds? And if anybody is looking to offload any, then I'm all ears. I've checked out Uncarved Block and they look like nice holds - but they are also pretty expensive!

salty crag
20-Jan-2020
6:29:44 PM
I've purchased quite a few from uncarved block, good holds but not cheap. X-es climbing holds are really good too. Their footers make great crimps and we use them on a 45d wall but the price has gone up a fair bit, currently $1:50 each. Worth grabbing a few.
I purchased a couple of different woodcarving discs for my angle grinder and some of the best holds I have a ones I've carved from glueing pieces of 19mm plywood. An american guy has some good youtube vids on carving holds, well worth a look.

harold
20-Jan-2020
8:06:54 PM
For bolts and tnuts I recently purchased some from climbing anchors for pretty competative price. I don't think Bunnings stock these or else they would be overpriced. Fastener shops are the best option or online climbing store had a similar price.

Comercial holds aren't cheap unfortulately, but heaps of out there to choose from. Second hand if you can get them. I have made some wood ones, its not too hard and they have nice feel. Just a bit time consuming. I have made some out of stone I have collected which were nice. Just need a good drill for the bolt holes. And need to use some filler or glue to make a flat backing for the wall side.

jkane
21-Jan-2020
9:17:41 AM
I thought that T-Nuts were something that originally came from furniture making. Might be an angle worth pursuing. Furniture makers must get them cheap in bulk from somewhere.

gordoste
21-Jan-2020
10:18:36 AM
I've got some cheap holds that are crap, some Moon holds which are super expensive and great and some Uncarved Block ones which are fairly dear but a joy to hold.

My advice would be don't cheap out - you won't enjoy using the wall if the holds are uncomfortable. Yes the holds are going to be a few hundred bucks but you will use them for a very long time and if not, you can sell them. You could check online marketplaces for bulk lots but look out because quality is extremely variable.

Regarding T-nuts - as someone else said, the local fastener shop is going to be the cheapest if you know a builder or someone who has a wholesale account. Otherwise Climbing anchors is probably the best bet. Most hold manufacturers do also sell t-nuts. Don't skimp on them either!

Make sure you look around for your plywood. You can often find stuff like that cheaper at a local hardware store.

If you really want to save money, you should investigate making your own wooden holds. Things like staircase banisters can be chopped up, and even shaping your own is not that difficult if you have access to a few basic tools. Search around and you'll find a few great tutorials. This also has the advantage that they are really nice for your fingers.
TimP
21-Jan-2020
11:25:28 AM
On 21-Jan-2020 jkane wrote:
>I thought that T-Nuts were something that originally came from furniture
>making. Might be an angle worth pursuing. Furniture makers must get them
>cheap in bulk from somewhere.

I found T nuts at the evil Bunnings once, not in the bolt section but with furniture legs / fittings. Can't remember the price but subsidised by pulping Jarrah forests originally so everythings a bargain there
dan_b
21-Jan-2020
1:05:27 PM
On 21-Jan-2020 gordoste wrote:

>If you really want to save money, you should investigate making your own
>wooden holds. Things like staircase banisters can be chopped up, and even
>shaping your own is not that difficult if you have access to a few basic
>tools. Search around and you'll find a few great tutorials. This also has
>the advantage that they are really nice for your fingers.

I agree. I built a woody a few years ago with a mix of bought resin holds of varying quality, as well as many home made wooden holds, mostly with off cuts of framing timber. I preferentially use the wooden one now. As Gordoste said, much nicer on the fingers.

Pat
21-Jan-2020
4:06:51 PM
second going to your local bolt wholesale - I found they are happy to pay over the counter. Make sure you get imperial t nuts and imperial bolts or metric and metric. Like was said above, make sure you don't skimp on bolts. A lot of home woodies that I have seen have too sparse a choice of bolt holes. For me my pattern was across the length of a 2400mm sheet @ 150mm centres in rows 100mm apart and each row was offset by 75mm. It allows you to easily make an old route hard by incrementally adjusting the holds. Wooden holds are the best because of skin friendliness. They get deadly smooth in time, but that all helps with contact strength.
Olbert
22-Jan-2020
11:15:36 AM
Thanks for the info.

For bolts and tnuts, I got quoted 38c each for 400 zinc plated mild steel tnuts and 72c each for 50 75mm zinc coated mild steel bolts at ATC Nuts and Bolts.

For the holds, I'll check out the wood hold tutorials on YouTube. It looks like X-es is a bit cheaper than Uncarved Block. Both look like nice holds. The Uncarved Block has a 55 hold pack for $400 - expensive but maybe a good start? The crimpy footholds from Xes look great - I might grab a bunch!

Cam McKenzie
22-Jan-2020
1:18:10 PM
For t-nuts, Garry Phillips (in Tas) has imperial sized zinc coated tnuts for 25c each.

https://www.bigredclimbing.com.au/hardware/

Not sure if shipping would make that uneconomical or not, but he's a good bloke and makes good holds too.
dave1962
22-Jan-2020
1:46:27 PM
avoid zinc t-nuts , they will eventually break over time, I recommend steel t-nuts , I think 35 cents each at climbing anchors, better price for bulk orders
Olbert
22-Jan-2020
3:13:25 PM
Hmmm...I was gonna go metric sizing because bolts the moonboard holds come with are metric. Maybe I could cancel the bolts from moonclimbing.com and just get imperial sizing for t-nuts and bolts.

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