Goto Chockstone Home

  Guide
  Gallery
  Tech Tips
  Articles
  Reviews
  Dictionary
  Links
  Forum
  Search
  About

      Sponsored By
      ROCK
   HARDWARE

  Shop
Chockstone Photography
Australian Landscape Photography by Michael Boniwell
Australian Landscape Prints





Chockstone Forum - Climbing Videos

Post links and comments about your favourite climbing flicks

 Page 1 of 4. Messages 1 to 20 | 21 to 40 | 41 to 60 | 61 to 67
Author
Burly Toru Nakajima on Grit
egosan
28-Aug-2012
9:51:01 AM
This one made my feet hurt to watch...


Toru Nakajima - new E9 on Gritstone from UKClimbing.com TV on Vimeo.

Visiting junior Toru Nakajima is safely back in Japan (phew!) after his three week blitz of Peak gritstone.

The 15 year old climber racked up an astonishing list of ascents given the warm and wet conditions he found in our typical British summer.

Black Out E9 (first ascent)
Childs Play/Nocturnal Emission (Direct on Parthian Shot) E9
Meshuga E9 (climbed the same day as Parthian Shot!)
Gaia E8
Simba's Pride E8
Elm Street E8
Life Assurance E6 (onsight)

Olbert
28-Aug-2012
10:16:24 AM
Christ! Sooooo....E9 now means soloing? WTF? I totally do not understand this ethic.
egosan
28-Aug-2012
10:27:07 AM
I think the kid was just doing a bunch of highballs.... He probably thought E9 passed the laugh test.
PDRM
28-Aug-2012
10:56:00 AM
On 28/08/2012 egosan wrote:
>I think the kid was just doing a bunch of highballs.... He probably thought
>E9 passed the laugh test.

At 2:13, was wondering what the spotter was supposed to do if he fell from that height.

P
dalai
28-Aug-2012
10:57:46 AM
On 28/08/2012 PDRM wrote:
>At 2:13, was wondering what the spotter was supposed to do if he fell
>from that height.

Probably comfort him till the ambulance arrives?
gfdonc
28-Aug-2012
11:23:01 AM
Whar's ma drill ...

wallwombat
28-Aug-2012
12:13:28 PM
On 28/08/2012 PDRM wrote:

>At 2:13, was wondering what the spotter was supposed to do if he fell
>from that height.

Run like hell.

wallwombat
28-Aug-2012
12:27:03 PM
I think having multiple crashpads at the base of these gritstone climbs has changed the game a bit.

We saw that when Hannold and Jorgenson carved up the gritstone in 2008.

As egosan said, a lot the climbs become highball boulder problems and some of them don't even look that high, with all those pads at the base.

kieranl
29-Aug-2012
3:10:20 PM
This newspaper account of his visit is hilarious. Mind you some of the posters here don't seem to have much more clue than this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2124427/Teenager-Toru-Nakahima-nicknamed-Japanese-Spider-Man-shows-soon-best-free-climber-world.html
kieranl
29-Aug-2012
3:20:42 PM
A british perspective on his grit tour :
http://alexekins.co.uk/toru-nakajima/

benjenga
29-Aug-2012
4:38:27 PM
On 29/08/2012 kieranl wrote:
>A british perspective on his grit tour :
>http://alexekins.co.uk/toru-nakajima/

Good read.

ChuckNorris
29-Aug-2012
4:55:10 PM
Yeh - when I first saw this story (years ago) I thought "tiger mum/dad" syndrome. The blog corrected that unfair (and borderline racist) first unfair opinion of mine.
simey
29-Aug-2012
6:56:09 PM
On 29/08/2012 kieranl wrote:
>This newspaper account of his visit is hilarious. Mind you some of the
>posters here don't seem to have much more clue than this.
>
>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2124427/Teenager-Toru-Nakahima-nicknamed-Japanese-Spider-Man-shows-soon-best-free-climber-world.html

This was my favorite quote posted after the article...

One fine day we shall hear of his demise, as we have of all the other free climbers. Spread over the ground like a pound of strawberry jam. A short life and maybe a sweet one, unless he learns to give up while still young and agile. Still, the young have never been known for common sense. When in the army, the very few times I did abseiling I didn't blinking well like it. Good for him though, if that is what he enjoys.
- George, Stansted, 04/4/2012

Anthonycuskelly
29-Aug-2012
10:06:13 PM
Yeah, but what's he done on... wait, never mind.

wallwombat
29-Aug-2012
10:41:21 PM
On 29/08/2012 stugang wrote:
>Yeh - when I first saw this story (years ago) I thought "tiger mum/dad"
>syndrome. The blog corrected that unfair (and borderline racist) first
>unfair opinion of mine.

Yes, I found the fact that he was a 15 year old kid, who couldn't speak much English, alone and camped in some boggy moor, just out of Wimberry-On-Scrotum, cranking like a demon , living on Ramen and it took a while for anyone to notice.

I can't remember what I did when I was 15 and I had school holidays but it wasn't that.

Takes balls.

cruze
30-Aug-2012
7:31:43 AM
On 29/08/2012 wallwombat wrote:
>On 29/08/2012 stugang wrote:
>>Yeh - when I first saw this story (years ago) I thought "tiger mum/dad"
>>syndrome. The blog corrected that unfair (and borderline racist) first
>>unfair opinion of mine.
>
>Yes, I found the fact that he was a 15 year old kid, who couldn't speak
>much English, alone and camped in some boggy moor, just out of Wimberry-On-Scrotum,
>cranking like a demon , living on Ramen and it took a while for anyone
>to notice.
>
>I can't remember what I did when I was 15 and I had school holidays but
>it wasn't that.
>
>Takes balls.
Aiyee.

IdratherbeclimbingM9
30-Aug-2012
2:41:40 PM
On 29/08/2012 kieranl wrote:
>A british perspective on his grit tour :
>http://alexekins.co.uk/toru-nakajima/

~> Interesting reading for the likes of myself who do not consider myself a boulderer.

Some excerpts from that link...
Toru abseils and chalks the holds and then I belay him, as he try’s the moves.

Toru pulls down the top rope and then he disappears for nearly an hour. I have no idea where he goes, but he suddenly returns to the bottom of the route, quickly ties in and says “Ok I go.”

I have no problem with the fact that the lad climbs hard and well, but I wonder if some time in the future someone comes along and does those same climbs without using those tactics if they will be considered better climbers, or if the collective memory will say 'Oh, Toru did those back in 2012', ... as if to say ie 'equal ascents'...

When I watched that vid, prior to reading the link above, I thought to myself that the climbing seemed pretty sussed, and if not, then the obvious tick marks give the game away!

Nah. You boulderers (& sport climbers) can keep those tactics.
~> I really believe that I get more from my low grade adventure onsights, and for that matter my high grade aid onsights...
;-)
Olbert
30-Aug-2012
3:12:28 PM
On 30/08/2012 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:
...
>When I watched that vid, prior to reading the link above, I thought to
>myself that the climbing seemed pretty sussed, and if not, then the obvious
>tick marks give the game away!
>
>Nah. You boulderers (& sport climbers) can keep those tactics.
>~> I really believe that I get more from my low grade adventure onsights,
>and for that matter my high grade aid onsights...
>;-)

I think it's kinda wank on the whole but what if you saw a line, felt inspired to do it but it was out of your onsight league and wanted to do it anyway?

Would you:
a) give up and go onsight something you can.
b) toprope it and then decide that that's enough.
c) headpoint it like in the vid so that you can get the experience of leading it.
d) attempt the onsight and live (or not) with the consequences.

If it was me, and I was truly inspired by the line, I would probably do (c). I can't really see it coming about though because I would much prefer it to be something that wasn't death on a stick and I could go for the onsight and fall off without fearing injury or death.
dalai
30-Aug-2012
3:51:00 PM
Just because there is a bouldering mat below some of the problems, none are really boulders problems. Rather typically short grit routes where such pre-inspection exists on the harder routes.

Ground up onsights of the harder E graded routes are still relatively rare as far as I am aware...

IdratherbeclimbingM9
30-Aug-2012
4:00:26 PM
On 30/08/2012 Olbert wrote:
>On 30/08/2012 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:
>...
>>When I watched that vid, prior to reading the link above, I thought to
>>myself that the climbing seemed pretty sussed, and if not, then the obvious
>>tick marks give the game away!
>>
>>Nah. You boulderers (& sport climbers) can keep those tactics.
>>~> I really believe that I get more from my low grade adventure onsights,
>>and for that matter my high grade aid onsights...
>>;-)
>
>I think it's kinda wank on the whole but what if you saw a line, felt
>inspired to do it but it was out of your onsight league and wanted to do
>it anyway?
>
>Would you:
>a) give up and go onsight something you can.
>b) toprope it and then decide that that's enough.
>c) headpoint it like in the vid so that you can get the experience of
>leading it.
>d) attempt the onsight and live (or not) with the consequences.
>
>If it was me, and I was truly inspired by the line, I would probably do
>(c). I can't really see it coming about though because I would much prefer
>it to be something that wasn't death on a stick and I could go for the
>onsight and fall off without fearing injury or death.

Hmm. An interesting question you ask young grasshopper Olbert!
I would choose;
>d) attempt the onsight and live (or not) with the consequences.

... however with the caveat on that choice being (regarding);
>saw a line, felt inspired to do it but it was out of your onsight league and wanted to do it anyway?

I pretty much know my onsight limit and am reasonably proficient at assessing that in regards to any prospective onsight from the ground. Consequently, if I truly believed it well beyond my onsight limit and I wanted to do it anyway, then I would aid it!

What I find equally interesting, is that my onsight aiding limit is way higher than my onsight free-climbing limit as a consequence!
~> ... and here I am not talking aiding a grade (say) 25 crack, as that is often a simple M1(!), but instead, onsighting inspiring lines that normally exceed free climbing grade 30+, and consequently end up in the Gd M6/7 (or higher) category.
;-)

 Page 1 of 4. Messages 1 to 20 | 21 to 40 | 41 to 60 | 61 to 67
There are 67 messages in this topic.

 

Home | Guide | Gallery | Tech Tips | Articles | Reviews | Dictionary | Forum | Links | About | Search
Chockstone Photography | Landscape Photography Australia | Australian Landscape Photography | Landscape Photos Australia

Please read the full disclaimer before using any information contained on these pages.



Australian Panoramic | Australian Coast | Australian Mountains | Australian Countryside | Australian Waterfalls | Australian Lakes | Australian Cities | Australian Macro | Australian Wildlife
Landscape Photo | Landscape Photography | Landscape Photography Australia | Fine Art Photography | Wilderness Photography | Nature Photo | Australian Landscape Photo | Stock Photography Australia | Landscape Photos | Panoramic Photos | Panoramic Photography Australia | Australian Landscape Photography | High Country Mountain Huts | Mothers Day Gifts | Gifts for Mothers Day | Mothers Day Gift Ideas | Ideas for Mothers Day | Wedding Gift Ideas | Christmas Gift Ideas | Fathers Day Gifts | Gifts for Fathers Day | Fathers Day Gift Ideas | Ideas for Fathers Day | Landscape Prints | Landscape Poster | Limited Edition Prints | Panoramic Photo | Buy Posters | Poster Prints