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17-Feb-2011 10:26:57 AM
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Hi Folks,
Do we have any canyons worth exploring in Vic.
The closest I have come is Moroka Gorge but looking for some other options.
Your help will be appreciated
rgs,
chris
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17-Feb-2011 10:28:35 AM
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Grampians during floodwaters would have some awesome canyons!
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17-Feb-2011 11:15:34 AM
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My understanding is that sandstone is pretty much a prerequisite for canyons. The volcanic rock is too soluble and doesn't form proper canyons. The Gramps are one, but is there any otehr big sandstone in Victoria?
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17-Feb-2011 11:29:20 AM
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On 17/02/2011 evanbb wrote:
>My understanding is that sandstone is pretty much a prerequisite for canyons.
Limestone also forms good canyons. Bungonia has a few, and certainly overseas there are heaps of great limestone canyons. Rodellar in Spain for example. I've also seen good canyons in New Zealand in the shist rock.
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17-Feb-2011 11:32:00 AM
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On 17/02/2011 evanbb wrote:
>The volcanic rock is too soluble and doesn't form proper canyons.
Do you mean insoluble?
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17-Feb-2011 11:35:39 AM
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There is also 'canyoning' at Cradle Mountain in Tassie.
http://www.cradlemountaincanyons.com.au
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17-Feb-2011 12:51:43 PM
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I reckon the Little river gorge system in far east Gippsland would equate if you consider abseiling down mammoth water fall systems canyoning, without the slot canyon experience of the Blue Mts.
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17-Feb-2011 3:27:42 PM
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On 17/02/2011 Pat wrote:
>I reckon the Little river gorge system in far east Gippsland would equate
>if you consider abseiling down mammoth water fall systems canyoning, without
>the slot canyon experience of the Blue Mts.
And you could climb back up via Grand Old Duke of York (and have an epic, like I did).
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17-Feb-2011 5:11:03 PM
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Thanks folks
as always most helpful
LR Gorge will happen when I'm back from Squaw
anyone keen for a trip to LR Gorge in April??????
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17-Feb-2011 5:21:16 PM
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climbing?
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17-Feb-2011 5:22:14 PM
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On 17/02/2011 Tommo wrote:
>On 17/02/2011 Pat wrote:
>>I reckon the Little river gorge system in far east Gippsland would equate
>>if you consider abseiling down mammoth water fall systems canyoning,
>without
>>the slot canyon experience of the Blue Mts.
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>And you could climb back up via Grand Old Duke of York (and have an epic,
>like I did).
TR please. How much booty did you leave behind? Heh...
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17-Feb-2011 5:43:20 PM
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Plenty of gorges around the Snowy River. Little River Gorge is the biggest but there are quite a few others. But they're not the thin dark canyons like in the Blue Mtns.
JamesMc
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17-Feb-2011 8:52:20 PM
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Up stream or downstream of McKillops bridge James?
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17-Feb-2011 10:59:57 PM
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I walked LRG last month, TR here: http://forums.ski.com.au/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1208825&page=3#Post1208825
Not a canyon, just a gully....^^^James is very correct, just look at some maps...
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17-Feb-2011 11:02:33 PM
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On 17/02/2011 Pat wrote:
>On 17/02/2011 Tommo wrote:
>>On 17/02/2011 Pat wrote:
>>>I reckon the Little river gorge system in far east Gippsland would equate
>>>if you consider abseiling down mammoth water fall systems canyoning,
>>without
>>>the slot canyon experience of the Blue Mts.
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>>And you could climb back up via Grand Old Duke of York (and have an epic,
>>like I did).
Second the TR request! That wall looks so good! There would be a bunch of potential for long routes in there on exciting rock.
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>TR please. How much booty did you leave behind? Heh...
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18-Feb-2011 9:29:54 AM
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great TR fish Boy, what an amazing place.
I want to hear about your trip too Tommo.
Well I am going to try this in april explore/climb
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18-Feb-2011 2:02:40 PM
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On 17/02/2011 Fish Boy wrote:
>Second the TR request! That wall looks so good! There would be a bunch
>of potential for long routes in there on exciting rock.
'exciting' is a good word here - the top half is like 20 werribee gorges stack on top of each other!
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18-Feb-2011 2:26:07 PM
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On 17/02/2011 ajfclark wrote:
>On 17/02/2011 evanbb wrote:
>>The volcanic rock is too soluble and doesn't form proper canyons.
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>Do you mean insoluble?
Nope. Weathering in sandstone is almost entirely mechanical. Weathering in volcanics is chemical; hence the trenchy cracks in granite. It's much younger rock, which fractures while cooling. Water flows down the surface so the whole thing dissolves. In sandstone the weathering only occurs at the bottom of the crack where the sand is tumbling along in a stream. Hence, it saws straight down.
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18-Feb-2011 2:26:59 PM
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On 17/02/2011 nmonteith wrote:
>On 17/02/2011 evanbb wrote:
>>My understanding is that sandstone is pretty much a prerequisite for
>canyons.
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>Limestone also forms good canyons. Bungonia has a few, and certainly overseas
>there are heaps of great limestone canyons. Rodellar in Spain for example.
>I've also seen good canyons in New Zealand in the shist rock.
I would not be in a hurry to call the Bungonia gullies 'canyons'.
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18-Feb-2011 6:06:42 PM
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dont no whether it has changed or not but april will be going down a blackberry infested gorge .both time i did it were eraly summer or spring .dont go down whole gorge to snowy but head back up the north side after the big waterfall up the spur that ends on the bend in the road down to Mclliops bridge
I think there are about 10 or 15 gorges in the area only other one I have been to is reedy creek gorge .Rob Jung had some great article in magazines about all the gorges in the late 70 early 80s
How about rocky valley gorge above bogong village track goes to guaging station at he bottom of the gorge and another track cross above the gorge . Another one in that area is upstream (500 m ?) of the main bridge where road crosses from fainter side to falls creeek side of river over Mt mckay creek and on the fainter side .
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