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Wanted: Lightweight Tarp

Zarb
5-Jun-2013
3:42:13 PM
Hi all,

I am just trying to track down a reasonable condition lightweight solo tarp. Only planning on using it for a few specific trips so I dont want to buy any gucci new ones for $100+.

Looking for something around 10'x8' less than 600g preferred if possible. An included lightweight groundsheet would be a bonus.

Thanks!

IdratherbeclimbingM9
5-Jun-2013
3:48:22 PM
On 5/06/2013 Zarb wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I am just trying to track down a reasonable condition lightweight solo
>tarp. Only planning on using it for a few specific trips so I dont want
>to buy any gucci new ones for $100+.
>
>Looking for something around 10'x8' less than 600g preferred if possible.
>An included lightweight groundsheet would be a bonus.
>
>Thanks!

Have you considered buying the heavy duty plastic sheeting that underlies concreting jobs? Possibly available from a Bunnings type store??
~> May still be too heavy.
The closest for weight, and cheap as, but not overly strong, is the plastic wrap off a new double mattress. ~> Check the bins at back of a mattress store!!
;-)
widewetandslippery
5-Jun-2013
3:55:28 PM
2 options:
disposals store. about $60 for a fly. Mitre 10 mid weight painters drop sheet cut to size $6? dont go the super light weight floor as it doesnt sit right.

Option 2. buy ripstop from spotight. buy rafting lanyard patches for tie offs. a tube of silicone and some metho. Pour metho and silicone into a container and mix. Soak nylon sheet in mixture. Dry. Stick patches where you want/need them. Use ground sheet as above. Sub $100 silnylon tarp.
gfdonc
5-Jun-2013
3:58:55 PM
Clark Rubber usually have some nylon off the roll that is bonded with some heavy-duty PU-style proofing.
Fairly bomber yet not too heavy. Can't recall the price though, might cost $20/metre.
GWil
5-Jun-2013
4:03:22 PM
If making your own, do you hem the edges, or just roll with it? Do these methods cop an okay kicking?

pedro.c
5-Jun-2013
4:26:48 PM
What's wrong with the tarps at Bunnings? $12.50 will buy what you've described. The Gucci Heavy Duty ones are $25
stingray4100
5-Jun-2013
5:34:15 PM
http://samhuntvic.com.au

If you can deal with the orange colour.

Zarb
5-Jun-2013
8:20:35 PM
Im curious as to the weight and bulkiness of all these suggestions, especially basic hardward tarps. I am very keen to keep weight to an absolute minimum. If it gets much past 1.5kg for tarp, cord, and pegs, I may as well just take my lightweight tent. Anyone have an idea of the weights?

Pat
5-Jun-2013
9:47:00 PM
Made a good light weight fly out of ripstop from Spotlight - like the home bodginess of WWS's waterproofing. Ripstop will let water through, so it needs some proofing.
argos44
5-Jun-2013
10:14:28 PM
Search this on eBay:

Mannagum Camping Hiking Survival Outdoor 4x4 3000mm Tarp Shelter Tent 3x3m

They are only around $40, light, strong and waterproof. I had one up at Arapiles for 10 days and it handled a thunderstorm and days of roaring winds without a problem.

Jason

ChuckNorris
5-Jun-2013
11:30:15 PM
On 5/06/2013 Zarb wrote:
>Im curious as to the weight and bulkiness of all these suggestions, especially
>basic hardward tarps.

they are all 1.45kg -- and if you don't believe me go and weigh them yourself.
argos44
6-Jun-2013
8:58:51 AM
820g is stated for the one I have and I would believe it.

IdratherbeclimbingM9
28-Oct-2019
12:30:17 PM
On 5-Jun-2013 widewetandslippery wrote:
>2 options:
>disposals store. about $60 for a fly. Mitre 10 mid weight painters drop
>sheet cut to size $6? dont go the super light weight floor as it doesnt
>sit right.
>
>Option 2. buy ripstop from spotight. buy rafting lanyard patches for tie
>offs. a tube of silicone and some metho. Pour metho and silicone into a
>container and mix. Soak nylon sheet in mixture. Dry. Stick patches where
>you want/need them. Use ground sheet as above. Sub $100 silnylon tarp.

Thanks WW&S, I remembered this thread and itís contributions recently when I decided to re-waterproof the floor of my tent.

It worked a treat and Iím very happy with the outcome, but have some update info for any who want to do similar...

Silicon technologies have improved a bit since this thread started, and I bought a cartridge of the Selleys ĎStormí clear silicon that adheres to any material wet or dry. I tried dissolving some in metho and was unsuccessful, likewise in kero without success, so resorted to mineral turpentine which works, but drying time is longer especially to cure to the point of nil odour.

I used a third of a cartridge in two cups of mineral turps in a wide-mouth sealable jar, and shook / stirred the heck out of it for about an hour and a half to finally dissolve all the silicon into a consistency of paint. I found putting a couple of small washers in with the mixture aided greatly in breaking up the beads of silicon (while shaking the mixture) that had formed half way through the process. The wide mouth jar allowed use of a 2Ē brush to dip into the mixture and in fact I used the brush to further break down and dissolve the essence of beads that shaking was taking forever to dissolve.

It took longer to prepare the paint mixture than it did to do the job!

The quantity prepared allowed me to apply a single thick coat thoroughly wetting-out the bucket style floor of a 3-person tent, and after three days of drying (cool weather conditions lately), in my garage it has cured with nil odour being given off, though during that time it did smell a bit and was initially tacky to touch.
Iíll let it dry for another week before packing it away just to be sure of it curing and not wanting to adhere to itself!

As mentioned earlier, the final result is great and I reckon will extend the life of my tent by at least 20 years!!
Widewetandslippery
29-Oct-2019
4:11:24 AM
Glad to hear it worked for you. One omission on rereading was going to town with the mixing with one of those paint mixer bits in a drill

shiltz
30-Oct-2019
9:17:06 AM
Did you seal the inside or the outside surface of the tent floor?

IdratherbeclimbingM9
30-Oct-2019
4:46:02 PM
On 30-Oct-2019 shiltz wrote:
>Did you seal the inside or the outside surface of the tent floor?

I thought about it beforehand and chose to do the inside, because I figured the reproofing would last longer if not subjected to grit/gravel etc.

At that stage I didnít know how the Ďsilicon-paintí would bond to the tent material inasmuch as whether itíd be like a skin and subject to peeling, gravel-rash scrape style punctures, or whether itíd bond in an impregnated fashion. Iím pleased to report it is the latter, and in my opinion not likely to peel / delaminate.

I turned the tent inside out and pegged it out on the lawn so painting the floor was the easy part. On the second day I hung it on the clothesline and finished off the sidewalls of the bucket-style base up to the walls proper. In between finishing it off, I draped it over a bench inside the garage overnight with the tacky side up so it wouldnít stick to the bench.

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