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Climbing Mediawatch

MisterGribble
8-Feb-2021
5:10:42 AM
Well Jimmys teeth looked to be in better nick than the pile of rubble he's climbing on

IdratherbeclimbingM9
9-Feb-2021
3:59:32 PM
Gonna have to practice my cheesy grin to wall climb now...

PW - you’re not allowed to bring a full size toothpaste on our upcoming Ozy sojourn if I’m doing your wombat hauling!
;-)
PeterW
9-Feb-2021
8:52:42 PM
But it will make me climb better!

Actually, my first thought was, "Bring toothpaste?" :-)
gfdonc
3-Jun-2021
3:21:24 PM
Extended SanDisk advertorial, but with some good scenes and shots:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g20oC-0BY-8
BA
5-Jun-2021
10:44:16 AM
On the ABC News website
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-05/mountain-climbers-fourteen-highest-peaks-claims-in-doubt/100187534

MisterGribble
10-Jul-2021
8:14:33 AM
And Simon Carter just got a good spread in the Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/gallery/2021/jul/10/from-devils-tower-to-the-grampians-simon-carters-rock-climbing-photography-in-pictures

Shame he'd get jailed for most of the Grampians photos now .....
Wollemi
20-Jul-2021
10:15:05 AM
Australia is sending two climbers to Tokyo: Tom O’Halloran, who is 77th in the world at lead climbing, and Oceana MacKenzie,who dominated the field at the Oceania qualification event in Sydney in 2020. She’s ranked 70th in the world for lead climbing, 60th for bouldering and 39th for speed.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rock-stars-how-do-you-win-gold-in-sport-climbing-20210617-p581un.html
gfdonc
11-Dec-2021
9:07:51 AM
Here you go 'Stoners, some climbing in the media.

https://www.dpreview.com/news/9340696144/slideshow-the-adventurous-winners-of-the-red-bull-illume-image-quest-2021-competition

E. Wells
28-Dec-2021
5:56:56 PM
Check out the fassifern guardian for a great article about climbing at Minto. Would love to post the link but Chockstone cant cope with that. Every post is a gamble so keep em short!
dalai
29-Dec-2021
4:58:01 AM
On 28-Dec-2021 E. Wells wrote:
>Check out the fassifern guardian for a great article about climbing at
>Minto. Would love to post the link but Chockstone cant cope with that.
>Every post is a gamble so keep em short!

fassifernguardian link

Last paragraph is ominous. There appears no negotiation, just straight banning of climbing

"But he said similar conflict between rock climbers and traditional owners was taking place over much of the country, and was hopeful Winpullin could help to “set a precedent” for “future approaches to negotiating these complex circumstances”."

Duang Daunk
29-Dec-2021
7:04:47 AM
On 29-Dec-2021 dalai wrote:
>On 28-Dec-2021 E. Wells wrote:
>>Check out the fassifern guardian for a great article about climbing at
>>Minto. Would love to post the link but Chockstone cant cope with that.
>>Every post is a gamble so keep em short!
>
>fassifernguardian link
>
>Last paragraph is ominous. There appears no negotiation, just straight
>banning of climbing
>
>"But he said similar conflict between rock climbers and traditional owners
>was taking place over much of the country, and was hopeful Winpullin could
>help to “set a precedent” for “future approaches to negotiating these complex
>circumstances”."

With preceding paragraph saying;

Another of the interim directors, David Spillman, said that Winpullin would now be protected, though not made entirely inaccessible.
“It can still be visited, just in a very reverent manner – and with permission,” Mr Spillman.
“And there won’t be any climbing.”

… The ‘hopeful precedent’ looks to be an agenda with a forgone conclusion.

Duang Daunk
2-Jan-2022
5:24:28 AM
On 29-Dec-2021 One Day Hero wrote:
>That whole situation sounds messed up. When are people going to learn that
>you can't just show up and apply the full blown gridbolting, maximum impact
>development style to places which other user groups have been visiting
>for ages?
>
>Seems that the Queensland sport climbing scene is about to experience
>the "find out" part of "fuch around and find out".

Yep.
Eh bro, where do you reckon Qsc can fuch around, as they obviously frustrated at Frog and carked cave development at Coolum, etc?

gordoste
6-Jan-2022
8:21:40 AM
On 29-Dec-2021 One Day Hero wrote:
>That whole situation sounds messed up. When are people going to learn that
>you can't just show up and apply the full blown gridbolting, maximum impact
>development style to places which other user groups have been visiting
>for ages?
>
>Seems that the Queensland sport climbing scene is about to experience
>the "find out" part of "fuch around and find out".

Well said. I can't agree with dalai that this is "ominous" when climbers are so clearly in the wrong here.

from the article:

Those claims were supported in an archaeological report by Everick Heritage, which found Winpullin could contain “exceptional heritage significance”, but that was being destroyed before it could be properly understood.

... end quote
dalai
6-Jan-2022
12:46:53 PM
On 6-Jan-2022 gordoste wrote:
>
>Well said. I can't agree with dalai that this is "ominous" when climbers are so clearly in the wrong here.
>

Not questioning whether the climbers did or didn't do the right thing here. The reality is TO's will have visited every crag in Australia. If the go to decision is to just ban climbing then that will happen. Enjoy your indoor climbing!

E. Wells
6-Jan-2022
2:55:00 PM
..and wave pools for surfers. Gotta love emerging market opportunities!

gordoste
10-Jan-2022
1:31:31 PM
On 6-Jan-2022 dalai wrote:
>On 6-Jan-2022 gordoste wrote:
>>
>>Well said. I can't agree with dalai that this is "ominous" when climbers
>are so clearly in the wrong here.
>>
>
>Not questioning whether the climbers did or didn't do the right thing
>here. The reality is TO's will have visited every crag in Australia. If
>the go to decision is to just ban climbing then that will happen. Enjoy
>your indoor climbing!

Sorry but I can't see how a ban on climbing here means climbing will be banned everywhere. This is the equivalent of people saying that if climbers get access anywhere, we'll destroy all the art because we don't give a toss.

We have to be willing to talk to TOs, ask which ones need to be off limits and then respect that. The "it's my right to climb anything on public land" attitude totally ignores TOs land rights that were established nearly 50 years ago. It's about time we caught up.

Note: This does not mean we should not fight arbitrary or over-extensive bans. But if we have the support of TOs (or at least are not in conflict with them), that fight will be easy.
dalai
10-Jan-2022
1:59:53 PM
We will have to agree to disagree.

Most climbers are willling to find some middle ground and do understand we can't climb everywhere.

But if the TO's have the ability to remove a user group with minimal fuss (those opposing will be labelled racist as already seen during the Gariwerd bans) why would they bother liasing with the user group?

As more areas are returned to TO's, I expect more areas will be closed off. Naive to think otherwise...

gordoste
11-Jan-2022
9:32:04 AM
On 10-Jan-2022 dalai wrote:
>We will have to agree to disagree.
>
>Most climbers are willling to find some middle ground and do understand
>we can't climb everywhere.
>
>But if the TO's have the ability to remove a user group with minimal fuss
>(those opposing will be labelled racist as already seen during the Gariwerd
>bans) why would they bother liasing with the user group?
>
>As more areas are returned to TO's, I expect more areas will be closed
>off. Naive to think otherwise...

I don't think we are disagreeing all that much. It really depends what happens in the next few months.

If we can establish a collaborative model for agreeing the closure of individual climbs , rather than entire crags, then that should become the preferred solution where possible (it won't always be possible). This is what the "middle ground" looks like, and if we can get there then the widespread closures you talk about will not happen.

But if the current ongoing discussions about management of climbing in Gariwerd and Djurite just ends with climbers refusing to recognise that our "right to climb" requires TO approval, then you are 100% right - we'll be cut out of the loop and things will just be closed wholesale.

If you think that TOs will just cynically cut us out, then I guess we'll have to wait and see if you're right. The positive reception to the efforts of GWRN to educate them on climbing gives me hope.
dalai
11-Jan-2022
10:26:55 AM
On 11-Jan-2022 gordoste wrote:

>If you think that TOs will just cynically cut us out, then I guess we'll
>have to wait and see if you're right. The positive reception to the efforts
>of GWRN to educate them on climbing gives me hope.

TO's interacting with GWRN does give a glimmer of hope.
gfdonc
14-Jan-2022
12:37:02 AM
Back to media watching .. MTC to produce a theatre play of Touching The Void
https://www.theage.com.au/culture/theatre/keep-breathing-and-make-every-scream-count-actors-tackle-a-deadly-climb-20220106-p59mex.html

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