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9:11:29 AM
I remember reading his book as a kid and pretty much believing all of it. It is funny how unfeasible it all now sounds having read that article and perhaps being a bit older and wiser. Even funnier is that amongst all those yarns the only one I was sus of as a kid was when a snake bit him on the schlong.

9:56:01 AM
Am I the only one to have noticed the pattern in Bear Grylls television making?

First of all he creates Man vs Wild, basically parroting all the information from John Wiseman's The SAS Survival Handbook.

That all goes rather well, so what to do next? Hmmm, how about Worst Case Scenario. Thankfully John Wiseman also has written a book about that too - The Urban Survival Handbook.

Yet I've never noticed any acknoledgement of him in any of the MvW credits.

Must make their production meetings pretty easy though - " Bear, what chapter shall we plagiarise next?"
10:13:02 AM
does john wiseman provide the basis for his painful french legion series too?

10:21:39 AM
On 6/12/2010 voodoo wrote:
>Yet I've never noticed any acknoledgement of him in any of the MvW credits.

Someone added Bill Hicks as an uncredited writer on the IMBD page for Denis Leary's No Cure For Cancer a while back. Perhaps we could do the same on NvW's page?
One Day Hero
1:45:17 PM
I'm not all that bothered by Treseder or Bear spinning shit. Anyone who knows anything knows its crap, anyone who believes such over the top stuff kind of deserves some agro for being so gullible. Minor bullshitting is less acceptable simply because it shows a lack of ambition
One Day Hero
1:20:10 AM
On 21/05/2009 surfinclimb wrote:
>One of his amazing feats was to rescue a girl in a canyoning accident
>who had supposedly being hanging in a harness in a waterfall for at least
>6 hours. ( as climbers we know already this is bullshit and she's dead)
>he rescues her singlehandedly as her boyfriend has waited at the carpark
>where he found our " Hero" and then walks her out of the canyon for 3-4
>hours, puts her in the car and sends her home with her boyfriend. Did I
>mention this was on the way from driving home from one of his desert tiger
>walks where he walked for 280 kms non stop across the desert and conveniently
>stops at this particular carpark because now 1 hour from home he needs
>to sleep.

Well, reading that expose, I thought that there were more flaws in the expose than the original claim. I believe that you could scramble/jump every bit of claustral until the 2nd abseil in 'the black hole', with a reasonable chance of escaping injury.

The expose also massively exagerated the walkout time........and, if he lived in sydney's north west, the Claustral carpark is a mere couple of hundred meters from a viable route for him to have been taking home from central oz.

I've definitely crashed in the car an hour from home after epic climbing/driving combo's..........not hard to swallow at all. If you start hallucinating, stop driving.

As Elwood Blues said "I didn't lie, I just bullshitted you"

There is a difference

> hes just a liar and there's not much I dont like
>more than a liar
I don't like people who shit in my linen closet.......thats worse than lying
6:34:42 PM
This is perhaps a better link that examines Treseder's claims -

It has links to other articles. I can remember having an interesting discussion about Treseder with Chris Baxter, Ian Brown and Tom Williams at the last Escalade at Mt Victoria.

12:19:33 AM
Well it hasn’t done him any harm. He turned apparently into a major fundraiser for Westmead Hospital and then the Royal BrisbaneWomens Hospital, and got a seat on the Federally run and prime minister sponsored community business partnership and gives” inspirational talks”.

( for some reason I got onto Rich Simpson claiming to climb Action Directe and though to look up our Australian version of sporting superhero ness).

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