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what would you do in a pandemic?

bl@ke

30-Apr-2009
6:24:14 PM

Shut up Pigsy!


Eduardo Slabofvic

30-Apr-2009
8:34:51 PM

On 30/04/2009 prb wrote:
>She considers the snout, ears,
>tongue, brain, etc. to be a great treat.

Braaaaains......

TonyB

1-May-2009
8:43:41 AM

It only effects all you young healthy blokes ... it doesn't bother with old fellas like me.

dmnz

1-May-2009
12:21:51 PM

I bet the Muslims and the Jews have been right all along about pigs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_restrictions_on_the_consumption_of_pork


anthonyk

1-May-2009
12:46:42 PM

On 1/05/2009 dmnz wrote:
>I bet the Muslims and the Jews have been right all along about pigs:
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_restrictions_on_the_consumption_of_pork

you can't get porkulosis from eating pork. swine flu is a bit of a misnomer anyway, its a human disease, made up from human, swine and bird flu genes.

sure maybe you wouldn't share diseases if we didn't hang out with pigs, but what about birds? there's nothing more jewish than chicken soup..

dmnz

1-May-2009
2:34:02 PM

yes you're right, stay away from humans, and pigs!

Olbert

2-May-2009
1:18:22 PM

On 30/04/2009 Sabu wrote:
>Its to do with the interaction between the genes of the different species
>which has the
>potential to produce weird (retro?) viruses. I don't know a lot about
>it though, just recall
>the implications from an ethics subject i slept through.

Thats like saying back in the 1900's "Cars will never be allowed-they cause too many accidents."

You are faced with a failing kidney/liver/heart, you have three options:
1) You can join the human organ waiting list, and in three and a half years time you might get that spare part you wanted before you finally kick it. Will be one hell of a three years with your bung organ-as your doctor says"DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT CLIMBING"
2) You can decide that you are gonna die anyway and you would rather be in heaven anyway. Good luck to you, hope there are some decent cliffs up there.
3) You can get that pig organ that has been grown for you, in a month or so. This brings along with it the chance of retrovirus's that doctors may or may not have worked out yet.


Sabu

2-May-2009
1:24:48 PM

Yes but they won't actually grow you a pig organ until they're sussed out if in 5 years you'll create a mutant virus that will threaten humanity. Of of course they just don't know what will happen.
There are other issues like quarantine, having to constantly check if anything has mutated etc.

Give the patient the choice between death and a pig heart, and you know which one they'll choose.
But its not always up to the patient and the simple fact is that any government won't want to risk it!


rodw

2-May-2009
1:51:29 PM

On 2/05/2009 Sabu wrote:
> and the simple fact is that any government
>won't want to risk it!

You reckon??????..depends how desperate they get...example the atomic bomb a couple of theorys thrown about at the time before testing was that it would start a chain reaction and end the universe...I think you have to much blind faith in Govt Sabu.....


Sabu

2-May-2009
2:01:10 PM

Yea its too hard to regulate/quarantine patients, once the cat is out the bag...
And i don't the the government will get that desperate. Hell in America they've only Just
REapproved funded stem cell research!!

BTW I don't any faith in this government! Especially since they haven't bought me ou.....
i mean stimulated me.

Edited: ty monks!


pmonks

2-May-2009
2:13:16 PM

On 2/05/2009 Sabu wrote:
>Hell in America they've only JUST approved funded stem cell research!!

That's a bit inaccurate - they've actually just REapproved funded stem cell research. It was funded before the Shrub got into office, but he and his ultra right wing, fundamentalist, born again cronies came up with some f---ed up argument that stem cell research encouraged abortions, or something equally retarded.

At least they only had him for 8 years - how long was Deputy Sheriff Howard tarring and feathering asylum seekers and running them out of Downundertown?

Duncan

3-May-2009
5:43:29 PM


shamus

3-May-2009
8:10:45 PM

Proviruses in the genome, that were incorporated as retroviruses ages ago, mutations then led to the integrated elements of virus genome remaining dormant within the pig genome (same thing is also present in many other species, I assume in humans as well). Worry is due to risk of reactivation and creation of a whiz-bang new virus from the mix of immuno-suppressed transplant recipient, foreign animal provirus in the transplanted tissue, and human retro- or oncovirus (not 100% sure if oncoviruses are present in humans, know they exist in many animals). Makes the cross-species mixing up of some flu viruses look pretty straightforward.


Cookie

4-May-2009
1:37:55 PM

you do realise that this was a beta test for a bio-genecide attack instigated by the illuminati. *smirk*


Sabu

4-May-2009
1:41:36 PM

On 3/05/2009 Duncan wrote:
>On 30/04/2009 Sabu wrote:
>>Its to do with the interaction between the genes of the different species
>>which has the
>>potential to produce weird (retro?) viruses. I don't know a lot about
>>it though, just recall
>>the implications from an ethics subject i slept through.
>
>If that's the extent of your understanding, I really hope you failed that
>course.
It was an Arts subject so i passed with a Distinction for doing almost no reading and writing a lot of vague bullcrap! Laughable really.


shamus

5-May-2009
12:41:22 AM

pfft, silly illuminati, when there's so many better ways to do things. wonder how long it'll be before the animal libbers put swine flu into their collection of misguided arguements.
And I think i'd take option 2, olbert, but go for hell rather than heaven. More interesting people and from the tourism pics always looks like its a giant bouldering cave with heaps of roof routes.

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