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dalai

25-Mar-2008
10:05:17 AM

You don't own it, but if you spend the time exploring and searching high and low finally discovering a good cliff / outcrop etc it is only fair that you have the reward of enjoying it for the first time?

Dave J

25-Mar-2008
10:06:54 AM

>I've been burned a couple of times when I've told a few people about finds
>before developing (Islamabad at Mt Arapiles for one), so now just don't
>tell anyone till I'm done with the place...
>
Sorry about that Marty.

Was that at about the time you stopped climbing for a few years? I dont think I was maliciously going
out to steal what I thought were your projects or I would have certainly done that route of yours at
spurt.

I never really thought of boulder problems/crags as things people could own rights to (as opposed to
routes). The first I became aware of boulder prolems as "projects" was when Jules had a few projects
at Andersons (just 5 or so years ago....a long time after most of the islamabad was developed).

I think you're right though... society is to blame.

dalai

25-Mar-2008
10:25:39 AM

It's okay Dave, I went up there last August and just sat back and enjoyed the views ;-)

Glad now others saw what I saw in it's worth and have bouldered there since. I'm pretty sure I was still climbing at the time and it got developed pretty quickly before I had a chance to drive back up to Arapiles... Was just using it to validate the reasons behind the secrecy I have to new areas now.

I don't own any of the places I find as Gremlin correctly alluded to. But I have spent many days over the last 20 years driving and walking around in the bush most times finding nothing, instead of just going out for the hundreth time to the local crags... Fortunately the labour has reaped rewards and I have found some good bouldering spots around Melbourne too.

Given the time spent searching surely there should be some reward to making the time to search rather than hearing about a place without putting in this effort and just doing the climbs?

Re: Fabio's Route. I was only annoyed that it was climbed without asking, not that it had the ascent. I was easy enough to track down, and if asked I would have happily given it away...


AZ.Steve

27-Mar-2008
11:05:43 AM

Yeah, no no, yeah! I know I don't own the rock. And I was happy to open it to others, as soon as I got mine... He's still a prick!
Any ways I've found another little plot of paradise. Would you guys bush bash uphill for an hour or so to get to some quality mulitpitch granite climbs...

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