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24-May-2007 11:50:40 AM
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On 24/05/2007 anthonyk wrote:
>don't worry about scaring the pants off people or making them uncomfortable
>(taking a sweeping generalisation of people thats probably wrong a lot
>of the time..), even though it might make them a bit queesy at the time
>once you've been through something together with someone it can make a
>big difference about how you get along.
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>so- either they'll be scared at the very thought of you or you'll be best
>buddies afterwards. guaranteed results!
University tests have proven that when people attracted to each other do something exciting together, like white water rafting, they attach the feelings of excitement to the other person as a major cause of that excitement. So you want a climb that's exciting rather than too much of a ramble.
But you don't want it too exciting; it needs to stay on the right side of the exciting/ terrifying boundary. If his feelings of sheer terror get attached to you as the major cause, then that's probably not such a good result.
I think a multipitch climb with several not too large belay stances would be rather nice.
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24-May-2007 12:03:58 PM
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scary trad.
scare the pants off him, then half the work is already done...
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24-May-2007 12:36:19 PM
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On 24/05/2007 mousey wrote:
>haha yeh nowra names are a little more 'to the point'
>for example, lets examine a single wall....
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>too hot to stop
>slap that butt
>make me sweat
>cleave the meat
>dick me raw
>squeeze me hard
>roger the goat
>uncertainty pleasure
>slave to the rythym
>cheap route
You forgot Graeme Hill's masterpiece, "Receiver of Swollen Goods"
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24-May-2007 12:55:54 PM
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I am of the opinion that you should pick a climb that has cramped belay ledges, thus affording opportunity
for inadvertent body contact. You may also wish to try setting your belays up so as to cop an eyeful said
aforementioned hunks good bits whilst belaying.
Then there is the fitting of the harness, assuming he’s new to climbing, nice and snug, for safetys sake.
Then there are the climbing instructions, which I recommend instructing the boy to do what you say when
you say it, again, just for safety. (…..now put that hand here…..oooh, your good at this).
Then of course there are the massages after climbing, when any swollen or inflamed body parts are
soothed.
Good luck, and we await explicit details of your success.
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24-May-2007 1:14:41 PM
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sounds to me a good deal like a crux article in the making....
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24-May-2007 2:54:23 PM
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On 24/05/2007 billk wrote:
>University tests have proven that when people attracted to each other
>do something exciting together, like white water rafting, they attach the
>feelings of excitement to the other person as a major cause of that excitement.
>So you want a climb that's exciting rather than too much of a ramble.
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>But you don't want it too exciting; it needs to stay on the right side
>of the exciting/ terrifying boundary. If his feelings of sheer terror get
>attached to you as the major cause, then that's probably not such a good
>result.
yea that fits with the theories of classical conditioning!
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24-May-2007 3:22:00 PM
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On 24/05/2007 Sabu wrote:
>yea that fits with the theories of classical conditioning!
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so if you ring a little bell every time you feed him, once you've got him trained you can ring the bell to make him drool?
nice
well i was getting at something different, once you've had a shared experience with someone you've already got a connection with them, you're not just relating to them as someone you think is pretty nice, its someone you know. but yeah you can read into these things too much. go climbing. take photos of the terrified look on his face and the colour of his pants so you've got something to remember if he ends up a total jerk.
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24-May-2007 3:42:33 PM
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thats true about the personal connection. but i reckon a different association (one that was unintentionally conditioned) could result as well (maybe, would be cool if it did!), with anything or anyone not just this situation! so seeing him u feel excitement but the excitement is not from that person but the exciting experiences that were shared with him that are now associated with him.
RING *drool*
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24-May-2007 3:51:54 PM
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Speigal's Overhang - the ideal first date climb.
Easy as, super views and a nice toughish walk in and out so you are just stuffed enough to want recline soonish
You simply start late stretch it out and spend the night all cozy like at the Hermitage or the Black Spur Inn.
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24-May-2007 4:34:16 PM
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On 24/05/2007 Bob Saki wrote:
>Speigal's Overhang - the ideal first date climb.
>Easy as, super views and a nice toughish walk in and out so you are just
>stuffed enough to want recline soonish
I was actually gonna suggest the exact same climb. Another good thing is the "less than roomy" belay stations. Not too invasive but cosy 4 a first date :) just make sure he's fit for the walk/scramble in! Definitely will be a date to remember anyhoo.
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24-May-2007 5:07:48 PM
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quite right Steph!
and it gives a novice a real climbing feel, it's quite long, there is a summit and your on a large slab of rock.
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24-May-2007 5:34:24 PM
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On 24/05/2007 Bob Saki wrote:
>quite right Steph!
>and it gives a novice a real climbing feel, it's quite long, there is
>a summit and your on a large slab of rock.
Do we know yet if the date is a novice? If he is, then Spiegal's would be ideal, unless the weather has crapped out too much by then.
Steph is definitely right about wanting belays that are cosy without being invasive.
The walk in and out won't leave you with much energy afterwards but that's OK.
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24-May-2007 6:29:53 PM
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On 23/05/2007 PreferKnitting wrote:
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>What's everyone's opinion? Which am I more likely to get lucky with?
Why don't you skip all the BS and just have a game of hide the sausage.
If you are half decent looking and up for it, then you don't need to take him climbing. Just drop the trousers and time for Jiggy-jiggy
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26-May-2007 10:59:38 PM
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Aw, thanks everyone for your replies. There've been some very imaginative responses. I like that the
last response was For Fox Sake's comments
>Why don't you skip all the BS and just have a game of hide the sausage.
>If you are half decent looking and up for it, then you don't need to take him climbing. Just drop the
>trousers and time for Jiggy-jiggy
and then there were no other comments. As if to represent that everyone on the forum was in total
agreement.
That's what I must do.
Well, actually, I've chickened out. I just can't ask him out. I'm going to remain a bachelorette with my
knitting needles and image what could have been...
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27-May-2007 12:21:16 AM
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No way bud. You're going to have to do something now that you've been given mountains of ideas. Ok maybe you should suggest a quick date (I don't mean a quickie of course) but something where you don't have to go out into the wilderness and be stuck with each other. There's no escape route when you're half way up the route or if you're out in no man's land. What if you're on your trip and you start to hate each other? That would be funny! A climbing trip is actually a mega date isn't it. What about a day trip?
I think to ask him out you have to do your research first. No 1 is to assess the likelihood that he'll say yes. Step 1. Find out if he's available. If he's not it's not the end of the world. More research needed ie. how unavailable? Happily married with children...unlikely. Step 2. Flirt to gauge response. Step 3. Suggest outing.
Try this method someone told me about. In your mind tune in to him and ask him to meet you in a serene place. Come face to face with him. Surround yourself with white light and ask that this meeting be for the highest good for all concerned. Ask him your question and await response.
If he indicates he'd like to do a quilting workshop with you...great you'll be a match made in heaven!
Take care PK.
K
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27-May-2007 9:56:45 AM
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All good advice, but in my limited experience of such matters, you've got to be prepared for the worst.
If you have pysched yourself up to either... ask someone out (as suggested by K), or, drop the daks and suggest jiggy jiggy (Foxy's smooth approach), then you need to be prepared for the person to say 'no'. There is nothing worse than the awkwardness that can be created when you have spent days, weeks, months psyching yourself up for the big move only to be shot down in flames.
But just because you didn't win the battle, doesn't mean you won't win the war. And it is amazing how if you handle that situation well, then it can work in your favour down the track.
Be prepared for rejection with an appropriate response and things might just swing your way in the future.
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27-May-2007 11:11:21 AM
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I'd suggest a long easy climb at Mt Difficult followed by a skinny dip in one of the rock pools in the descent gully.
Best of luck
JamesMc
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27-May-2007 11:18:08 AM
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It's good to hear that a woman is having the dilemma of asking someone out, and not taking the Sydneysiders way of waiting for the guy to do the dirty work!
You could always take Mr Capables approach and get absolutely smashed, that way if it all turns out pear shaped you can blame alcohol for your actions!
Seriously though, depends on the situation, how long have you known this guy, is he someone you see in your local shops? Is it someone you actually know by name?
Start chatting again with him and say you are gonna go grab a coffee and would he like to join you. If he works in a shop, then do it near closing time (that way there's not usually a stack of people in there shopping).
Isn't it just the hardest thing to do to ask someone out, he's probably wanting to go on a date too, and more terrified than you of asking.
You should be able to tell by his body language if he's interested, and the way he talks to you.
There again, i'm hopeless at doing it. Keep the boys posted, we love some scandal
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27-May-2007 11:48:24 AM
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On 27/05/2007 for fox sake wrote:
>You could always take Mr Capables approach and get absolutely smashed, that way if it all turns out pear shaped you can blame alcohol for your actions!
Just don't start throwing up. That's never a good look.
You wanna be swapping spit, not swapping sick.
Hey that reminds me... what about taking him to a B&S ball for something different?
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27-May-2007 5:12:22 PM
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If there are any rough 46yr old mothers of 3 he'll be there!
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