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The new Blue Mountains guidebook

dalai

17-Apr-2007
9:40:43 AM

On 17/04/2007 gfdonc wrote:
>I suggest modifying the policy to allow advertising from climbing-related
>publications would be acceptable to all, and not to the detriment
>of the nature of the forum.

The publication I think you are referring to (nice Helmet review by the way) already makes comments, requests information, pictures on Chockstone already Steve...


nmonteith

17-Apr-2007
11:18:13 AM

I had the same thoughts Dalai!... Steve does climb regularly with a certain magazine editor!

Onsight

17-Apr-2007
12:29:16 PM

On 17/04/2007 nmonteith wrote:
>Steve does climb regularly with a certain
>magazine editor!

Does he now? Surprise, surprise!

gfdonc

17-Apr-2007
12:35:09 PM

Sorry, nice try, but refuted - I have never climbed outdoors at all or regularly in any case with any editors of any climbing magazines, certain or uncertain.

Thanks Dalai for the compliment. Those surveys are a lot of work!

Are we getting anywhere with this? or is it just getting personal ...
Happy to have made my point and leave it at that. Provided the moderators have a fair (=unbiased) view of "good" and "bad" advertising, it seems we're all OK to keep current practices as is and set the formal policy aside.

And I also compliment the moderators who have done a great job so far. Still think the cheap jeans sounded appealing though ;-)


IdratherbeclimbingM9

17-Apr-2007
12:47:08 PM

On 17/04/2007 gfdonc wrote:
> Still think the cheap jeans sounded appealing though ;-)
You will be OK gfdonc as apparently China is a place in Victoria these days ...
>Welcome to our newest member jarly from Victoria, Australia who joined
>us today.
... or you can always order online; ... or direct from jarly profile?
Heh, heh, heh.

BTW I bought the new BM guide at the Climbing Festival and although I have not climbed in the Blueys for a while I reckon it is an excellent guide compared to the old 'originals' that I have used faithfully in the past.
It is good for Aid Climbs as well !

Not sure about the five star rating system; ... will need to dwell on this some more to get used to it.


nmonteith

17-Apr-2007
12:57:25 PM

On 17/04/2007 gfdonc wrote:
>Sorry, nice try, but refuted - I have never climbed outdoors at all or
>regularly in any case with any editors of any climbing magazines, certain
>or uncertain.

i don't think i said outdoors did i? he he!

Your point is loud and clear gfdonc. we do need moderators of moderators.


anthonyk

17-Apr-2007
1:39:38 PM

On 17/04/2007 nmonteith wrote:
>Your point is loud and clear gfdonc. we do need moderators of moderators.

but who will moderate the moderators of the moderators?

;)

DJ Biggs

17-Apr-2007
1:43:32 PM

I think that information useful to climbers of "unique"... products and opportunities to submit to publications is all fine and could never be considered spam,
Nothing generic which can be offered by anybody else should be permitted to my mind
"rope well loved with core viewing holes life time guarantee"
is fine these things don't come factory made so its a unique product, as opposed to generic new ropes which have none of that sense of adventure. (and doesn't put it in competition with rock hardware)

So using this guide line.... I suppose if the poster can justify to others (moderators) why what they are plugging is unique and of special intrest that should be fine.

or just write abusive problem resolving posts, what could be easier
Nice work on the new guide by the way.


neats

17-Apr-2007
1:55:22 PM

The guide is impressive Simon! Great work!

mikepatt

18-Apr-2007
11:58:51 AM

On 16/04/2007 hangdog wrote:
>Bought the new Bluies guide last week and was very impressed.
>As a result decided to try a new Trad destination. Kangaroo Corner seemed
>pretty good and the access description was clear and concise. That was
>until we tried to get out there. After flogging through the scrub trying
>to make the description fit the terrain we bailed out. I had hoped this
>guidebook had avoided the problem of some of the others in that the access
>description is written for people who already know how to get there. It
>appears that this description was not checked prior to print as there were
>many landmarks that could have been used to let people know whether they
>were going in the right direction or not. i should have known when the
>description mentioned a clump of trees as a marker. its the bush there
>are trees everywhere!!!
>don't get me wrong i think that this guide is generally excellent however
>it can be really frustrating when all this effort has gone into it and
>you can,t get to the crag via the description.
>Not all the descriptions are off as we found the abseil down cave climb
>at Narrowneck ok, however the guide mentions double rings and all we found
>were the 2 old belay carrots in the cave.
>If anyone knows the way to Kangaroo Corner, let me know ?

Sorry to hear you didn't make it out there, hangdog.
By the way, what landmarks are you refering to?
I went out there recently and the vehicle track seemed a lot worse, possibly due to firetruck access and the recent fairly heavy rains. There's also a tree across the original track and a detour to get around it. Still I reckon the original description (written, I think, by the developers, Harry Luxford, or Bruce Cameron) is sufficient in conjunction with the map.
My rough memory is; follow very briefly sealed track and take left turn (right leads to small dam) up very rough section passing old brick foundations on left. Turn right at clearing and follow rough and narrow track passing bits of old cars, mainly on the left. Brief detour around fallen tree and continue as far as you dare and park in NEWish clearing on LEFT. Briefly walk down track and either continue down or follow cairns on left to rap points above the slab area.

How far towards the crag did you get?

Fool in the Rain

19-Apr-2007
7:43:24 AM

p.s. Hangdog.
The double rings half way down the Cave Climb rap are on the wall to the right (facing out, as you rap down) and are anchors for the climb Flying Spectacles and not in the Cave as you assumed.


tnd

19-Apr-2007
8:37:12 AM

On 19/04/2007 Fool in the Rain wrote:
>...(facing out, as you rap down)

Most people rap facing in, Mike...;-)

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