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ima.seriousyoungliza
5-Jan-2019
8:51:50 PM
'...After the Mabo decision, uncertainty surrounded whether native
title claims over pastoral leases would extinguish these leases.
The Wik Decision in 1996 clarified the uncertainty. The court
found that the statutory pastoral leases under consideration
by the court did not bestow rights of exclusive possession on
the leaseholder. As a result, native title rights could co-exist depending
on the terms and nature of the particular pastoral lease.
Where there was a conflict of rights, the rights under the
pastoral lease would extinguish the remaining native title
rights. The decision found that native title could coexist
with other land interests on pastoral leases, which
cover some 40% of the Australian land mass...'.

http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=DisplayTopic&ForumID=1&MessageID=133540&Replies=14&PagePos=0&Sort=#NewPost

... one thing that has not been considered in this debate is that 5+ decades of Victorian climbing actually constitutes ' SIGNIFICANT CULTURAL HERITAGE ' ...

....the other issue is that world class climbs and crags CAN be reduced to mediocre crap by the next generation wanting to bolt all the gaps...the Free Route on the Totem Pole WAS a ' world class ' climb...it is now just another varient on some obscure pillar of coastal dolerite...

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Duang Daunk
6-Jan-2019
4:00:00 AM
On 5-Jan-2019 ima.seriousyoungliza wrote:
>....the other issue is that world class climbs and crags CAN be reduced to mediocre crap by the next generation wanting to bolt all the gaps...the Free Route on the Totem Pole WAS a ' world class ' climb...it is now just another varient on some obscure pillar of coastal dolerite...

You know that you can do something about that don't you bro?
Damo is having another T-shirt run done, so I'm pretty sure you could be added to the list...
ima.seriousyoungliza
6-Jan-2019
2:45:10 PM
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...hey...dude..." I was merely speaking extemporaneously ! ! "...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yFEWgimK-Y

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IdratherbeclimbingM9
18-Jan-2019
11:46:18 AM
2019 DAKAR
The official line:
09:53 Australian Toby Price wins his second Dakar!
Has won the last stage of the Dakar 2019 and wins the world’s biggest rally-raid for the second time, following his triumph in 2016. It was a performance of genuine class from the KTM rider who left everyone in his wake in Lima, beating José Cornejo by 2’21 to crown 10 extremely difficult days for the Australian who rode throughout the race with an injury to his scaphoid bone, which occurred several weeks before the Dakar.

Recent TP DAKAR's by number...

2013 - broken neck while training with KC#66 :bow in Lucerne Valley CA, USA. Suspected quad/paraplegia circumvented with multiple surgeries to neck vertabrae (ti rods still in place)

DAKAR 2015 - rookie debut 3rd. (tied as only rookie to ever podium DAKAR - along with fellow Aussie - Andy Haydon KTM 1998).

DAKAR 2016 - 1st.

DAKAR 2017 - Broken femur - crashed while in battle for the lead, during first week.

DAKAR 2018 - 3rd. (while recovered from 2017 season off - from femur injury - only two months short prep for DAKAR)

DAKAR 2019 - 1st (with broken scaphoid - only six weeks out from DAKAR)

Five DAKAR's... two thirds... two wins... a lot of pain and sacrifice... a lot of talent.
Olympic Athlete standard and up there with some mountaineering style epics for hardness factor.
Respect!
ima.seriousyoungliza
30-Jan-2019
5:12:56 PM
http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=DisplayTopic&ForumID=1&MessageID=133702&Replies=1&PagePos=0&Sort=#NewPost

Simon Young probably nearly killed doing this in 2009...

'...Working for ‘the man’ was killing me slowly. Cage rage was slowly building up and i needed to break out and do something fun crazy and out there. Over new years Lauren Chandler came down for a trip to tas and i showed her some of the best places about. it was then i decided to go do something i had always dreamed of. I headed back to Melbourne for a few more weeks work, everyday thinking about the mission at hand. Soon the time came and i landed back onto the Hobart airport. i didnt bother checking the forecast for the next day, i own a rain-coat so that was inconsequential. As i drove down i was as happy as a pig in mud, the sky was blue!!!
i pulled into Fortesque Bay and paid my fees to avoid another run-in with the over zealous caretaker.(thats another story…) i shouldered the pack full of aiders ropes and other widgets to allow me to rope-solo the Aid Route(A3+/27 65m) on the Totem Pole. My housemate, Doug, had recently freeclimbed the line so his chalk was all over the route. he still had his tyrolean set-up to the summit, i could have gone across this and down but i wasnt feeling particularly homo so i set off to do it properly, ground-up.

the swing to the base is hard enough usually, i had a full aid-rack plus a lead rope plus four aiders plus the partridge in a pear tree so it took 3 goes to snag the new hangers at the belay. (cheers doug and deano!) the surf was pounding and the wind howling so i frigged in a belay and set off in search of dry rock. i made it to the higher belay without much fuss, theres heaps of bolts down low so i could move fast. i moved the belay higher, out of the waves then continued upwards.
i managed to get 10m out before i tried to go higher and was tugged back down by the gri-gri. with no good method for stacking the rope at the belay i had to head back down to clean up the tangles the wind had created, costing me more time.

soon i was looking up at the meat of the route, a thin seam that heads up to some hooks to the bolt-belay. i had to step around the arete into the seam and was exposed to the full force of the 70kmph winds! getting thrown around like a rag doll i continued up of tenious RPs before i faced an impass, the only bit that accepted gear had a useless rusty stub sticking out. i searched for ages to find anything to use. finally i moved off a tipped #1 pecker. up another foot the prospects of gear were no better. i ended up settling on a shitty sloping edge with a small dimple for a skyhook on the arete. staddling the arete i commited to the hook, watching my pecker fall out as i did so. i looked down past all the worthless pro and figured i’d end up somewhere near the sea when this hook blew. a minute passed and i was still there, the stuong gusts meant i couldnt get high on the piece and i dont know how my rocking around didnt dislodge it. i searched manically for the next piece, another shitty hook. about to commit to it i paused, this hook was suicide. there had to be something better. thirty second later i found it, a positive edge to sink my ‘talon’s into. highstepping up i clipped the bolt of the anchor, mumbling about how im selling my aid gear after this. it still staggers me that i didnt take the plunge.

i continued up of the belay passing the thin RURP seam. some hooking and delicately placed peckers saw me through to the final A1 crack to the summit. at this stage i heard voices, turning round to see two climbers. they had decided it too windy to climb that day but still came for a look. snapping off some pics they came across the tyrolean and joined me on the summit ledge. i had been to the true summit only weeks before but i had to go up once more, marking the first solo ascent of the Totem Pole. i smiled all the way back home, making the chesire cat look like a manic-depressive emo teen...'
ima.seriousyoungliza
30-Jan-2019
6:25:00 PM
>>> i searched manically for the next piece, another shitty hook. about to commit to it i paused, this hook was suicide... it still staggers me that i didnt take the plunge...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD-E-LDc384

>>> marking the first solo ascent of the Totem Pole. i smiled all the way back home...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqNfLGjyRQc


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ima.seriousyoungliza
31-Jan-2019
10:38:12 AM
...FAR CAN FUNNY !!!
http://rockandice.com/climbing-destinations/1975-climbing-tasmanias-infamous-candlestick-on-abc-sportsnight/

...Mendedlt getting smashed in the slot next to the Totem Pole ...and ABC reporter with big fat scooby-do...allegedly...

: D

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IdratherbeclimbingM9
1-Feb-2019
6:55:54 PM
One for simey...

>Brazilian surfer Rodrigo Koxa broke the world record for the highest wave ever surfed, during a session in Nazare, Portugal, according to the World Surf League. The São Paulo native set the new record riding an 80-foot (24.4m) wave in November 2017.
http://t.co/cNNBywrgVr
and
http://buff.ly/2KMDt51

~> it'd give you a bit of a shake if you were on the Tote and it popped up out of the deep...
Heh, heh, heh.

More on the break and Aussie surfers going for it.
ima.seriousyoungliza
2-Feb-2019
5:23:12 PM
>>> it'd give you a bit of a shake if you were on the Tote ...



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...dont hafta wurry bout sharkz at this place...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjLDpJIufx0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr9aQ4qvciQ
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ima.seriousyoungliza
25-Feb-2019
4:13:04 PM
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http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=DisplayTopic&ForumID=1&MessageID=133862&Replies=1&PagePos=0&Sort=#NewPost


...Famous Hobart crag FRUEHAUF seen here in 1844...being used to manufacture large sandstone blocks to construct grand colonial buildings...
...The ORGAN PIPES, on Mt Wellington, in the back ground..
....Hobart Rivulet @ bottom left...

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...painting done by this bloke...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Skinner_Prout

http://www.thesarvo.com/confluence/display/thesarvo/Fruehauf

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ima.seriousyoungliza
5-Apr-2019
12:48:09 PM
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http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=DisplayTopic&ForumID=1&MessageID=134057&Replies=5&PagePos=0&Sort=#NewPost
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http://www.standard.net.au/story/5974298/community-mourns-loss-of-former-magistrate-and-rock-climbing-pioneer/
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http://climbinghistoryoz.blogspot.com/2005/09/times-they-were-changin-new-south.html
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ima.seriousyoungliza
24-Apr-2019
6:32:10 PM
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...hey...daliah...check this out...

http://rockandice.com/climbing-news/lama-roskelley-and-auer-likely-reached-summit-of-howse-peak-before-deaths/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lama

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daliah wrote @2005 :

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ima.seriousyoungliza
24-Apr-2019
6:37:43 PM
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http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=DisplayTopic&ForumID=15&MessageID=29923&Replies=4#NewPost

http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=Display&ForumID=5&MessageID=12068
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>>>My friend Dennis Kemp, who had been climbing for over 40 years tied himself to a block at the top of Birdman. The block promptly fell and pulled Dennis after it.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/396726/Dennis-Kemp-RIP
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http://dmorg.org/bup/climbing/states/jtree/1987/jt8709.html
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ima.seriousyoungliza
26-Apr-2019
11:35:28 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNjJqKN6IyA

http://www.facebook.com/wsllive/videos/388763845300816/

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IdratherbeclimbingM9
26-Apr-2019
6:37:59 PM
Thanks for the well researched climbing links, and the current Bells links too hex, as it was good to see today’s heats in reasonable size waves live.
ima.seriousyoungliza
29-Apr-2019
11:53:49 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdMWHMUki0M

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-29/are-tiny-homes-the-answer-for-older-women-facing-homelessness/11049272
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http://www.climbing.com/news/australias-grampians-national-park-announces-sweeping-climbing-closures/

“Our Rangers in the Grampians National Park observed instances of impact to cultural and
environmental values which prompted these changes. This included instances of damage to rock
faces through use of bolts, chalk, and graffiti, damaging plants by pulling them from cracks in the
rock, drop mats damaging vegetation and cutting new access tracks through forested
areas and leaving rubbish including toilet paper as well as establishing campfire rings.”

....hhhmmmmmmmm......

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ima.seriousyoungliza
15-May-2019
5:57:56 PM
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http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=Display&ForumID=1&MessageID=134149

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-29/grampians-national-park-bans-rock-climbers-over-rock-art-damage/11030190

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_DHwp5vYBI

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ima.seriousyoungliza
10-Jun-2019
12:32:42 PM
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http://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/6201526/peace-talks-begin-over-grampians-rock-climbing-ban/

http://www.mappery.com/Australia-Aboriginal-Tribes-Map

...it seems to ima that the issue isnt about rock climbers vs parks victoria....its about rock climbers vs aboriginal/indigenous people at a very personal level...
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http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/battle-over-grampians-as-rock-climbers-banned-to/11056572

..." A 20 minute rush that can damage 20 000 years of history "...
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...the aboriginal/indigenous message seems to be coming thru something like this :

THE GRAMPS WERE NEVER GIVEN UP
THE GRAMPS WERE NEVER BOUGHT AND SOLD
THE PLANTING OF YOUR BOLTS AND CHALK
NEVER CHANGED OUR LAW AT ALL

SPORT CLIMBING IS EASY
SPORT CLIMBING IS CHEAP
MUCH CHEAPER THAN OUR PRECIOUS ART AND LAND
YOUR PROMISES OF RESPECT CAN DISAPPEAR
LIKE WRITING IN THE SAND

TREATY YEAH
TREATY NOW
TREAT US WITH RESPECT
AND MAKE US PROUD !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf-jHCdafZY




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....outrageous ?...ima dont think so...on the eve of the 20...20s...aboriginal/indigenous rock art...in its natural setting... is fundaMENTALLY important for aboriginal/indigenous identity...

http://caama.com.au/news/2018/education-and-reconcilliation-through-aboriginal-metal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKpcr8csZ3w

..." NOT KNOWING WHO WE ARE !?! "...

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ima.seriousyoungliza
10-Jun-2019
4:32:37 PM
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/3183962/Grampians-Climbing-Ban-need-your-help

>>>In short an episode of badly placed bolting by one individual...

http://savegrampiansclimbing.org/2019/06/06/taipan-trouble-brewing/

>>>Had your laugh? Good – now get a stiff drink and read this...


...ifya wanna win people over...then dont talk out ya rz...

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...and ima say to our aboriginal/indigenous brothers and sisters...things have come a long way since the 1970s...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7HYy0VyHkw

...but therez still a way to go...an you gotta be strong...we ALL gotta be strong...

.>>>TAIPAN TROUBLE BREWING...

Gotta Be Strong
Warumpi Band

Listen everybody
You know there's a lot of troubles in the world
You know about the danger
There's trouble up ahead
You wanna finish up?
I don't wanna finish up
I wanna live
You wanna be here tomorrow?
Well you gotta be strong
For our children's future
You gotta be strong
There's trouble up ahead
You wanna live tomorrow?
We gotta be strong
Everyone of us
We gotta be strong
To take care of this country
We gotta be strong

All the people all around
We gotta be strong
We got to be strong


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http://www.reconciliation.org.au/national-reconciliation-week/
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ima.seriousyoungliza
10-Jun-2019
5:37:39 PM
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http://www.onsight.com.au/2019/04/park-victorias-dirty-war-on-rock-climbers/

...ya barkin up the wrong tree with that attitude ….theres still plenty of scope for the future of the Gramps...

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/oct/26/victoria-native-title-agreement-gives-rights-to-11-per-cent-of-states-landmass

'...recognising the Taungurung as traditional owners in central Victoria
and awarding a settlement of more than $33m...'

'...It also transfers the management of nine parks and reserves to
Taungurung people as Aboriginal title, meaning they will be jointly
managed by the state and traditional owners. They include areas
of the Alpine national park as well as the Buffalo
and Lake Eildon national parks...'

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