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Kim Carrigan BOOK
widewetandslippery
3-Mar-2017
4:25:35 PM
honoured to be stalked. SW Tassie, packrafting etc does it.
ima.seriousyoungliza
3-Mar-2017
4:31:16 PM
this thread will give you some endorphin-releasing-pain-killin-fun ...

http://www.chockstone.org/Forum/Forum.asp?Action=Display&ForumID=15&MessageID=29785


: D


widewetandslippery
3-Mar-2017
5:08:37 PM
you can do better than that ima. Any secret crags you got going?
simey
3-Mar-2017
5:15:58 PM
On 3/03/2017 One Day Hero wrote:
>Angie had tons of support and encouragement from the crowd at her local
>gym. What did you think? She was just going to Nowra at 7 years old with
>her non-climbing folks, and working things out?

There are plenty of kids who have parents who climb hard, who go on climbing holidays and have had far more opportunity than Angie ever had, but Angie has chased it harder than any young kid I have seen.

>There are top level crushers living in Canberra, but they have jobs and
>uni, and they don't bum in the pines......so you don't realise they exist.

Being a crusher is not enough of a story in itself. You need a few other interesting elements if you want to craft a story. Living in Canberra and holding down a 9 to 5 job doesn't exactly come across as a fascinating story that needs to be told.


>I wasn't that impressed with Valley Uprising for a couple of reasons.
>The most glaringly irritating part was that they edited out non-Americans.
>The offhand dismissal of the mid 80s through to late 90s with "everthing
>went quiet for 15 years"........wtf? Croft, Skinner and Piana, Florine,
>the Hubers, Houlding? Nup, skip past them and on to the producers mates.

You can't include everyone in a climbing doco on Yosemite, but I couldn't believe that Valley Uprising didn't include Peter Croft.

gnaguts
3-Mar-2017
6:25:33 PM
On 3/03/2017 simey wrote:
>You can't include everyone in a climbing doco

Yeh, an i wanna kno more bout ww+s's exploits.
I gatha he's out there regulalike quietly achievn, despite old climbin m8s like rodw tryin 2 holdim bak with tha temptin Al K hall afta seshs.

Simes my old fiend, Croft was good no doubt, but Honnold shits all ova him.
U need2 go an revisit ur climbn hiztory.
ima.seriousyoungliza
3-Mar-2017
6:32:52 PM
>>>you can do better than that ima.

>>>U need2 go an revisit ur climbn hiztory....

thx 4 spurin me on , guys ... the thread was runnin outa octane n that ....

done some more obscure dredgin in far flung cyber waters ...




...looks like Kim giving Wolfgang Gullich the cold shoulder ... because Wolfy has just stolen Kim's crown by doing the first ascent of Punks 32 .... the hardest free climb on the planet ...right in Kim's Kingdom ...Mt Arapiles ............................Smithy on the right ...

gnaguts
3-Mar-2017
6:42:52 PM
Good 1 liz.
>wolfie kc an smitty

. . . But wotz kc got in iz poket there? My preciioouuus?
widewetandslippery
3-Mar-2017
6:43:44 PM
gnaguts my terrorist mate Al Khall is my own doing.

Moving to a town that is closest to the centre of the universe, Lithgow, soon.

Anyway to keep thread rift adrift, I have more foot doctors than Macaybe Diva wanting to look at my feet but there is a flood and the bass are on.

I reckons Croft still should be a " news item" not a "newsboy" they're a hillsong rock group popular with the sunshine community church in El Paso Texas. Shit his day with GW unroped is pretty special, as for AH what about the kid who soloed the Fish on Marmolarda.
ima.seriousyoungliza
3-Mar-2017
6:52:24 PM
>>>Anyway to keep thread rift adrift, I have more foot doctors ETC

BUGGA ORF !!!!

: D
widewetandslippery
3-Mar-2017
6:53:28 PM
On 3/03/2017 gnaguts wrote:
>Good 1 liz.
>>wolfie kc an smitty
>
>. . . But wotz kc got in iz poket there? My preciioouuus?

more teeth? he does sell ice cream
ima.seriousyoungliza
3-Mar-2017
6:53:42 PM
Kim knew 4 sure the Carrigan Years were all done by 1985 when Wolfy clawed his way up Action Direct , in 1991 ... the first grade 35 on the planet ...

simey
3-Mar-2017
7:01:03 PM
On 3/03/2017 gnaguts wrote:
>Simes my old fiend, Croft was good no doubt, but Honnold shits all ova him.
>U need2 go an revisit ur climbn hiztory.

No arguments there. But given that Honnold was still in nappies when Peter Croft soloed Astroman (arguably the most famous long and continuously difficult free route in the world at the time), then Croft should have received a little screen time.
widewetandslippery
3-Mar-2017
7:04:27 PM
On 3/03/2017 ima.seriousyoungliza wrote:
>>>>Anyway to keep thread rift adrift, I have more foot doctors ETC
>
>BUGGA ORF !!!!
>
> : D

not into being buggered. Happy Mardi Gras ima
ima.seriousyoungliza
3-Mar-2017
7:09:00 PM
seya mate !

try an make it relavent , boys

Kim Carragin and Peter Croft :


http://www.climbandmore.com/climbing,542,0,1,routes.html
One Day Hero
4-Mar-2017
12:06:39 PM
On 3/03/2017 simey wrote:
>There are plenty of kids who have parents who climb hard, who go on climbing
>holidays and have had far more opportunity than Angie ever had, but Angie
>has chased it harder than any young kid I have seen.
>
I wasn't disagreeing with this

>Being a crusher is not enough of a story in itself. You need a few other
>interesting elements if you want to craft a story. Living in Canberra and
>holding down a 9 to 5 job doesn't exactly come across as a fascinating
>story that needs to be told.
>
That wasn't my point. I took issue with your suggestion that Angie learned to climb in a bubble with only her non-climbing folks around. Not true.
You seem to think that top level climbers can appear from nowhere (e.g. Henry Barber). I feel that there is usually a crew around, which actually fits with your take on the 80's Araps scene much better Lizardboy's crap about a one man show.


>>I wasn't that impressed with Valley Uprising for a couple of reasons.
>>The most glaringly irritating part was that they edited out non-Americans.
>>The offhand dismissal of the mid 80s through to late 90s with "everthing
>>went quiet for 15 years"........wtf? Croft, Skinner and Piana, Florine,
>>the Hubers, Houlding? Nup, skip past them and on to the producers mates.
>
>You can't include everyone in a climbing doco on Yosemite, but I couldn't
>believe that Valley Uprising didn't include Peter Croft.
>
ima.seriousyoungliza
4-Mar-2017
2:09:50 PM
Marky vs Damo

>) Sit back in your arm chair and have another drink instead of getting angry at the world. Oh wait... that's what old washed out ex climbers like yourself do.... Intoxicated keyboard warrior.

take it outside , boys ...

; P

U lot still dont ' get ' it ....Kim's ' scene ' was not Arapiles-centric .... as it was for say Mark Moorhead ( when he was focusing on rock and not alpine stuff)....Kim's SCENE was THE INTERNATIONAL SCENE ...eg USA , England , France , Germany .... the only reason Kim bothered with Arapiles was because of the world class quality of the rock ....

The only other INTERNATIONAL rock climber to emerge from Australia during the Carrigan Years , was Louise Sheppard ...with her SIGNIFICANT ...tho generally unheralded at the time .... first female ascents ... .. eg Seperate Reality

U can mention anyone else from those years an u will find they were generally ' tourist-climbing ' when O / S.......ie ... not really fratenizing with the TOP world climbers and being involved with pushing the free climbing standards and styles of the day .... the way Kim very deliberately and PROFESSIONALLY was doing .....yeah I know...Java ...well his main focus was big wall aid and the Karakorum ........

yeah here it comes

" ...aaaarrrrggghhhh ima ... ya fullash#t ....ya dunno wot ya talkin about !!!!! ..."

......



ima.seriousyoungliza
4-Mar-2017
2:45:13 PM
On 3/03/2017 ima.seriousyoungliza wrote:
>simey
>>>> there is a colourful story to be told about the climbing scene in
>Australia between 75 and 85..
>
>...the bottom line is the Carrigan Years IS all about Kim Carrigan ...
>cos he DOMINATED '...the climbing scene in Australia between 75 and
>85 ..' ................all the other 'colour and characters ' flow along
>with, and swirl around , the KC base-line thru those years ....


...COULDNT PUT IT BETTTER ME SELF , IMA !!!!

: D

ima.seriousyoungliza
4-Mar-2017
2:55:02 PM
one of the few ppl who ' get ' it ...is Davej....so here's the Davej Years :

http://www.alpinist.com/doc/ALP17/arap-addiction

'...I've always been much more inspired by the lines that I haven't climbed than by the ones I have. Among the former, Inquisition—a widening crack through a six-meter roof, Arapiles' last remaining aid line—may represent its last great problem. There was a dark chapter in the story of Arapiles when climbers, assuming they were as good at climbing as anyone was ever going to get and therefore anything they couldn't climb was impossible, began installing bolt ladders over the top of numerous Arapiles future classics—an even messier and less creative solution than chipping. Fortunately, Henry Barber visited in 1975 and freed many of these lines, causing the locals to re-evaluate their preconceptions. As standards improved, Arapiles climbers whittled away at the aid he'd left; Kim Carrigan, in particular, made huge inroads with his free ascents of climbs like Procul Harum. Gradually all the aid has been eliminated.

Except on the Inquistion. A line of rusting aid bolts marks the way, forming a perfect blend of history and future. Years ago I spent some time working the line and managed to do all the moves. I even linked them together into three sections. But a decade later it remains unfinished. I would love to see someone free it, and complete the job that Barber started....'

AND KIM MOSTLY FINISHED ....

widewetandslippery
4-Mar-2017
5:10:36 PM
For the record when were the first nsw 26, 27, 28 ascents? Ima you seem on top of this stuff, any idea?
widewetandslippery
4-Mar-2017
5:14:21 PM
When did Allen and Soreson do 26 in Kaputar? Who did the first repeat. I dont know, just asking.

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