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2-Jun-2004 9:43:13 PM
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Come on James, don't be modest - you've got your name stamped on about half of the climbs in the state :)
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2-Jun-2004 11:23:32 PM
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Tim, are you serious?? Calling him a wanker is a lil harsh dont you think? There was no hauling on gear at red rocks, everything was done in fine style...
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3-Jun-2004 12:03:20 AM
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Yo phil, I think Tim is just playing in the mood of the original thread.
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3-Jun-2004 7:25:12 PM
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If anyone else lists Baxter in their Legends list, I'll come over and punch them. Seconding famous people / aiding grade 10 trad routes doesn't qualify for legend status.
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4-Jun-2004 10:30:53 AM
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FatBoy, you would have to admit though that Baxter is certainly one of the most influential climbers around due to his position in Rock mag. I`m not giving him legendary status so don`t punch me.
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4-Jun-2004 11:00:54 AM
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I won't say anything about Baxter either.
Legend: A person whose fame or notoriety makes him a source of exaggerated or romtanticised tales. From Collins CED.
I still won't say anything about Baxter, but it definitely rules me out
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4-Jun-2004 12:31:16 PM
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FatBoy -
Luv ya matie, but must disagree with your comment. Behind every grand first ascent, there MUST be a dedicated assistant, otherwise known as a second. It's a team effort, remember!
jac
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4-Jun-2004 1:06:32 PM
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saw the other day that the infamous graffeti on castle crag has been changed to "Baxter is a ship"..
There's got to be a follow up line, but I can't think of it...
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4-Jun-2004 3:30:31 PM
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"All washed up by the New Wave"!
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4-Jun-2004 4:17:11 PM
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I'm sure there's a Mikl and Melon climb climb somewhere called 'Raise The Titanic', does that count?
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4-Jun-2004 4:27:21 PM
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Claw wanted to name Cat O Nine Tails (at Barbican Rocks) Rasie the Titanic i think...
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4-Jun-2004 4:32:36 PM
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On 4/06/2004 BA wrote:
>Legend: A person whose fame or notoriety makes him a source of exaggerated or romtanticised tales. From Collins CED
>I still won't say anything about Baxter, but it definitely rules me out
Ahh, there's legends and there are Legends!
Some campfires & associated yarns are legendary.... (chockstone forum for instance?)
Some bottles of plonk are (were) legendary ...
Some climbs are legendary.
Some egos in lunchboxes are legendary!
... and then there are the Climbers ...
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7-Jun-2004 12:09:22 PM
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Everyone who has been said so far and Rossco Taylor esp !!
Dave Jones, Extremely bold and impressive climber and all round nice guy.
Mark Weisner, not known for many new routes but indeed a fab climber, he
could rest and recover on holds most people can't even hold !!!
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9-Jun-2004 10:48:01 AM
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Andrew Lindblade and Athol Whimp (can you call him part victorian?) as alpinists.
US mag Climbing, June 2004, has an exposé on the pair. It basically starts off by going "Who are they? They're not american!" But then it summarises a few of the stories from Expeditions and generally gives them a good rap.
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9-Jun-2004 11:44:55 AM
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On 9/06/2004 ecowain wrote:
>Andrew Lindblade and Athol Whimp (can you call him part victorian?) as
>alpinists.
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>US mag Climbing, June 2004, has an exposé on the pair. It basically starts
>off by going "Who are they? They're not american!" But then it summarises
>a few of the stories from Expeditions and generally gives them a good rap.
Both those dudes climb well into the 30's so not just alpinist, but yeah good call,
I total fogot those dudes... Awesome Climbers, mountaineers and people......
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9-Jun-2004 12:10:39 PM
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OK, this is my serious list:
Malcolm
Steve Monks
All the Shepherd's, (especially Chris)
Dave Jones
Kevin Lindorff
Mark Moorhead
Carrigan, Claw etc. ruled out because they went back to NSW.
Jac, yes, you must have a belayer, but I don't remember getting any credit for belaying Dave on LOTR, Stuart W on FA (only ascent ?) of Mr Natural etc. etc. (I belay way harder than I climb.) In terms of his long term position as editor of Rock, yes that might make him influential, however it doesn't make him legendary. I stand by my comment, but I do promise not to punch anyone.
Athol's a kiwi, but those guys are clearly hard core. Kudos to 'em
I stand by comments
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9-Jun-2004 12:23:55 PM
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If you bush bash into the wilderness and find a new cliff, work out the potential line, spend three days on the route onsigthing, aiding, cleaning and adding bolts and pitons and finally give it to your mate to do the first free ascent of the crux then I think you still deserve a lot of recognition. Many of Chris' routes are are on big remote cliffs which involve a serious team effort to do the climbs. There are not many who are willing to explore and climb into uncharted terrortory these days.
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9-Jun-2004 3:21:13 PM
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On 9/06/2004 nmonteith wrote:
>If you bush bash into the wilderness and find a new cliff, work out the
>potential line, spend three days on the route onsigthing, aiding, cleaning
>and adding bolts and pitons and finally give it to your mate to do the
>first free ascent of the crux then I think you still deserve a lot of recognition.
>Many of Chris' routes are are on big remote cliffs which involve a serious
>team effort to do the climbs. There are not many who are willing to explore
>and climb into uncharted terrortory these days.
... so he can be in your "Victorian Bushbashing Legends" list ...
(You sound like you're trying to get your photos published in Rock ...)
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9-Jun-2004 3:35:32 PM
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Well said, Neilio... it's kind of what I was getting at, but I didn't say it too well :-)
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9-Jun-2004 3:37:18 PM
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I apprciate all the people that have helped me create my new routes in Australia. If it wasn't for their dedication in helping me out then i would never have done any of my new routes. They help me solve difficult cruxes (thanks Kent!), drag in gear for me (thanks Jono!) and generally keep me sane when i get agro and despressed (thanks Kathy!). Sometimes they end up doing routes I couldn't get up (thanks Nick!).
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