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25-Jun-2011 3:13:01 PM
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On 24/06/2011 uwhp510 wrote:
>On 24/06/2011 harold wrote:
>>If we shut down the aluminium industry what will you use to make caribiners
>>or aircraft out of. Or if you just shift production overseas, what is
>>the benefit/difference???
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>I think the idea is that other countries can make Al without burning coal.
> Canada's aluminium smelters are all in the mountains, next to the hydro
>plants apparently.
There would be global benefit in a larger proportion of the world's aluminium supply coming from these countries. I think the scenario some posters are concerned about is one where Al production gets pushed out of Australia to places like China which would import Australian coal to power the smelters.
Of course, a future with smaller cars, fewer cars and more bicycles per household, and better public transport would also be one with reduced global demand for Al.
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25-Jun-2011 5:37:44 PM
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On 25/06/2011 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:
>On 25/06/2011 widewetandslippery wrote:
>>What has this tax got for me. I'm expected to give a shit about 2050?
>>f--- off I'll be dead.
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>But what about the dogs?
>You gotta think of the dogs you leave the world behind to ww&s!
>;-)
Dogs live shorter lives than people. - am asking the tax me lot how this tax benefits .ME. How does ut benefit clkaude and mary?
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26-Jun-2011 7:44:41 AM
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On 25/06/2011 widewetandslippery wrote:
>Dogs live shorter lives than people. - am asking the tax me lot how this
>tax benefits .ME. How does ut benefit clkaude and mary?
it doesn't benefit people like YOU.
Thats the great thing about it.
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26-Jun-2011 11:32:17 AM
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Well you can give away your money for results you will never experience just don't expect me to.
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26-Jun-2011 3:53:45 PM
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On 26/06/2011 widewetandslippery wrote:
>Well you can give away your money for results you will never experience
>just don't expect me to.
Not a blood donor? :)
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26-Jun-2011 4:59:46 PM
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On 26/06/2011 widewetandslippery wrote:
>Well you can give away your money for results you will never experience
>just don't expect me to.
You will if it gets introduced. That's the beauty of a tax.
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26-Jun-2011 5:36:28 PM
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If that's the case if we ever meet I will feel free to tax you in the name of beauty.
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27-Jun-2011 8:38:25 AM
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Is Plebiscite a type of poison that kills all the common people? If so, I'm all in favour (snort).
No, that would be the carbon tax.
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27-Jun-2011 8:53:06 AM
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Slightly off topic, but regarding offsetting.
Watch the video...
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27-Jun-2011 11:22:00 AM
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On 27/06/2011 Samuel wrote:
>Is Plebiscite a type of poison that kills all the common people? If so,
>I'm all in favour (snort).
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>No, that would be the carbon tax.
Are you suggesting the carbon tax is some kind of attack on the "common people"?
You might want to read this:
http://finance.ninemsn.com.au/newsbusiness/aap/8265802/poorest-households-get-more-carbon-compo
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27-Jun-2011 12:29:39 PM
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On 26/06/2011 widewetandslippery wrote:
>Well you can give away your money for results you will never experience
>just don't expect me to.
Good point! We should just make all the young and as yet unborn pay for the planet being fûcked by the baby boomers....
Wait, we already are. Crisis averted (phew).
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27-Jun-2011 1:22:51 PM
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On 27/06/2011 uwhp510 wrote:
>>Good point! We should just make all the young and as yet unborn pay for
>the planet being fûcked by the baby boomers....
But what have future generations ever done for me?
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27-Jun-2011 3:34:58 PM
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On 27/06/2011 billk wrote:
>On 27/06/2011 Samuel wrote:
>>Is Plebiscite a type of poison that kills all the common people? If so,
>>I'm all in favour (snort).
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>>No, that would be the carbon tax.
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>Are you suggesting the carbon tax is some kind of attack on the "common
>people"?
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>You might want to read this:
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>http://finance.ninemsn.com.au/newsbusiness/aap/8265802/poorest-households-get-more-carbon
>compo
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Impressed this thread is still going :p
Based on what Gillard is saying, this is starting to sound like wealth redistribution is one of the main drivers. I wouldn't quite go that far, because i guess one of the tricky things with the proposed compensation is making sure that a pensioner in Cooma (with its higher heating costs in winter) is no worse off than one from say Brisbane.
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27-Jun-2011 3:45:14 PM
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On 27/06/2011 Eduardo Slabofvic. wrote:
>On 27/06/2011 uwhp510 wrote:
>>>Good point! We should just make all the young and as yet unborn pay
>for
>>the planet being fûcked by the baby boomers....
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>But what have future generations ever done for me?
And what have future generations done on grit?
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27-Jun-2011 3:52:52 PM
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On 27/06/2011 maxdacat wrote:
>Based on what Gillard is saying, this is starting to sound like wealth
>redistribution is one of the main drivers.
Wouldnt be a major labour/green policy if it didn't...I dont get how they can say 9/10 will get compensation when they dont even have the price or what will actually be tax sorted yet...they are going to balls this up in a huge way....and everybody is going to loose out.
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14-Jul-2011 4:10:34 AM
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http://www.heathenscripture.com/you-shut-your-goddamn-carbon-taxin-mouth/
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14-Jul-2011 9:20:54 AM
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On 14/07/2011 Wendy wrote:
>http://www.heathenscripture.com/you-shut-your-goddamn-carbon-taxin-mouth/
Anybody who missed the above page before it got pulled:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:9lubiI-b5K4J:www.heathenscripture.com/you-shut-your-goddamn-carbon-taxin-mouth/+you-shut-your-goddamn-carbon-taxin-mouth/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au&source=www.google.com.au
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14-Jul-2011 10:28:49 AM
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Wow, someone didn't like that then ....
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14-Jul-2011 11:04:35 AM
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I hope it's just because they've gone over their traffic allowance.
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14-Jul-2011 12:20:24 PM
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On 14/07/2011 Wendy wrote:
>Wow, someone didn't like that then ....
I did.
It's also here http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/2794652.html though it must have been posted a day later?
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