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QUT and affiliates sued for $8m Kangaroo Point 28-May-2017 At 10:18:15 PM widewetandslippery

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On 28/05/2017 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:
>On 28/05/2017 One Day Hero wrote:
>>>On 28/05/2017 mr curly wrote:
>>>And to the point mentioned a few times in this thread that NO-ONE abs
>>>off sports routes, and whether you ab or lower is ALWAYS sorted out
>before
>>>you climb, well, what if it’s not clear from the ground whether there
>are
>>>shackles on the rings. It’s the done thing to ab off rings without shackles
>>>rather than lower to reduce the wear on the rings. And if you don’t
>know
>>>before you leave the ground what’s up there then you will need to work
>>>it out when you get there.
>
>>You lower off the rings, numbnuts! See, this is the kind of stupid which
>>gets people killed. Again, nobody at a sport crag has an atc these days.
>>There is no option to rap, you thread and lower and bolt wear be damned.
>>Bring shackles next time, you muppet!
>>
>?
>I thought accepted practice in that situation was to clip ones own quickdraws
>to the anchor and lower off those, at least until the end of the climbing
>session when last down maybe gets lowered off the rings...

i think odh said that above. like the sign