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The Ultimate trip... 6-Dec-2008 At 9:01:08 PM WM

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I'd skip NZ & Aus crags because you can do them regularly on short holidays if you live in Aus. I'd also skip SE Asia because its easy to arrange a stopover there if you've been somewhere else. OTOH it can be tricky to get back to Africa/Americas/Europe so I'd spend the full 52 weeks there.

In the US I'd put Tahquitz, Toulumne and Utah (and maybe the Needles too but haven't been there) above Joshua Tree. IMO the only reason to go to Joshua Tree on this sort of trip is if you need a belayer outside yosemite season ... J tree routes and rock aren't world class. Smith Rock and Wild Iris seem popular with sporties but probably no loss if they stay off the list.

South America - Rio for sure. Carnivale is not the best friction season but totally ok in the cooler times of day and there's lots of other stuff to do (!!). Central & south America are easy to get around if you can pick up 10 words of spanish (ie don't necessarily go for the tour). Potrero Chico sounds good but haven't been there. Cuba has a reasonable amount of excellent routes but also some average ones, but is awesome to visit for lots of other reasons (same goes for Morocco) (esthercv2551@cubarte.cult.cu ph 53 7 8 62-04-01)

just food for thought...