>I think the gates need greater explanation from Parks Vic !
Parks have actually been quite good about engaging climbers - if you get involved with helping the VCC Access Officer you will have greater visibility to the process. The VCC is not just crusty old greybeards (despite the common misconception), it's the place where you can have your say in things like this. The Access Officers we've been lucky enough to have deserve a lot of praise for keeping lines of communication open between the climbing community and land managers.