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Wittgenstein Walls?

prb

30-Nov-2010
11:52:04 AM

Being on my own at Arapiles last weekend, I took the opportunity to explore some out-of-the-way places. I'd normally be too worried about snakes at this time of year to venture very far, but it was cool and damp.

I wandered up to Campbell's Kingdom on Saturday - it doesn't get much press but it'd be nice to have it in the Adelaide Hills! Did four routes, the pick being Kickapoo Joy Juice (18). That evening I walked up King Rat Gully and came face-to-face with an owl on the terrace opposite King Rat. I like that sort of thing.

Sunday morning climbed on the R-hand buttresses of the Colosseum Wall area. Incontinentia Buttocks (a few metres grade 12) was tougher than many of the problems on the Central Gully boulders. And the undercut arete of Roaming Knows (14) was a sandbag. Anyway, the chimney at the top of King Rat Gully had dried enough to scramble up and I walked past the impressive looking Catcher to the Serious Young Lizards wall. Pied Piper was a fun solo to a summit and SYL itself was quality, albeit short - it probably deserves a mention in Selected Climbs under Catcher. Then I tried to find the Wittgenstein Walls. The description I had was walk R and find a red wall behind the SYL wall. No luck. There's another small wall about 50m R of SYL, perhaps they're behind that? There's a small outcrop on the skyline to the SW about 100m from the top of SYL - maybe that's it? Anyone know? It's usually more fun trying to find these crags than actually climbing them.

kieranl

30-Nov-2010
9:59:45 PM

I also failed to find the Wittgenstein Walls when doing the ACA guide and, despite a lot of bashing in all directions, failed to find it. Probably need to go in with Hero. will it be worth it? Probably not.
There's also a couple of routes of Bert's that I couldn't positively identify; they may be somewhere near Chalk Talk.
Anyway, it's the journey that's important, as the destination is usually total choss.

prb

1-Dec-2010
11:50:37 AM

Thanks for that kieranl. My dossier on obscure areas at Arapiles mainly came from the ACA - I should have included your preamble about not being able to find this crag! I suspect what they were calling Serious Young Lizards wasn't. Still, I enjoy exploring the nooks and crannies up behind the face of Arapiles (and Moonarie too, although that's a bit tougher going). It's not all about the climbing.

prb

8-Aug-2019
3:43:29 PM

Just had three pleasant days solo at Arapiles until I was rained out yesterday. Focused on low-rent areas to save 'Selected Climbs' for being with friends. Again I tried to find the Wittgenstein Walls (now on thecrag.com), forgetting about this thread from years ago. I reckon Pritchard et al. mixed up Catcher with Serious Young Lizards and these are the red walls directly behind Catcher, left of SYL. There's nothing behind SYL.

I think Trapped Like a Rat in the Corner (16, B. Levy) on thecrag.com = Chalk Talk (18, C. Baxter), p.45 in Louise's guide. It was tough at 16, 18 is about right. And I think What Is and What Should Never Be (p.58) = Serious Young Lizards.

Out of interest, what's the big buttress between Bushranger and Comic Strip Wall called? There's certainly been some activity on the steep parts of it, on the rattly pinnacle to its right, and on a neat grey wall below.

Duang Daunk

8-Aug-2019
5:51:36 PM

On 8-Aug-2019 prb wrote:
>I think What Is and What Should Never Be (p.58) = Serious Young Lizards.

?
O oh, bro Imahex alert!
SYL should never have been? KC what have you done!!

prb

8-Aug-2019
6:00:10 PM

SYL is safe, it pre-dates WIAWSNB. SYL was the Muirs.

Robbie

9-Aug-2019
12:58:47 PM

I have compiled all New Routes in ARGUS (2001>2019). The only thing I can find on Wittgenstein is:
VCC>ARGUS>August>2008>Upper King Rat Gully>Wittgenstein Walls> Two Years on a Nork in Shedway [G14][15m][Tra]. Pritchard\Smith. Dec 1999.

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