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Sit-starts - do they affect route grades? |
31-Aug-2010 At 3:10:18 PM |
phil_nev
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FYI, as I understand it...
Ali-Hulk is pretty much a boulder problem neways (See vid of Dani bouldering it out in King Lines or Dosage 5 i think). It's actualy quite similar to the famous Fred Rouhling route Akira, in that it boulders out a very long roof with obscenely hard climbing and finishes up a relatively easy (grade 30ish :) and short headwall.
The sit start add's a good 5-6 moves from memory (Not just one move), esentially a 5-6 move v13/14 i think into what was already a 9a route... hence the overall grade of 9b...
Just as an example, if Extreme Cool (The first part of the WOL) was V14 instead of V8/9... There is no doubt linking it into the rest of the whell would be much harder and probably up the grade.
P.S Lets not get into the route or boulder lamo grade discussions re: the cave
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