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Araps Rebolting 30-Dec-2005 At 10:42:25 PM Dave C

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On 30/12/2005 ryan07 wrote:

>Dont know about the rest of you but im quite a fan of climbing being safe,
If it wasn't 'meant to be safe' why would anyone do it? It is not rational to want to do something that could potentially kill you without making it as safe as possible.

The reason many people climb is BECAUSE there is an element of danger. If you want to be nice and safe then stick to the plastic stuff indoors or go and live near Nowra or some sport-climbing area. As to your ideas of what is rational, are you for real? I'm afraid if you were even remotely correct we'd all be living in caves and grunting a lot. Taking risks is entirely rational, always has been, always will be.

Seems to me like the testosterone is flowing in this thread. Nice work "tough guys" your 'cool'. Keep living 'life on the edge' see how long you last before natural selection
kicks in.

More rubbish. I have serious concerns about the future of climbing with this kind of sh*te being spouted. I like a good clip-up as much as anyone at times but if that was all that climbing was about it would become very boring very quickly. Oh yes, I think you'll find quite a few of the people on here have been climbing for quite a long time and are still around. With your attitude I suspect you won't last as long as they have in this game.

If it wasn't for people like Neil Monteith and Safer Cliffs organisations guaranteed there would be more deaths in our beloved sport.

What the hell is the relevance of this? I don't think anyone on here is knocking Neil's re-bolting (I certainly wouldn't), Jonesey simply stated that routes should not be altered/retro-bolted without a little thought and consultation, particularly at a generally 'trad' crag like Arapiles.

Death aint cool..
..but it is inevitable! I would rather risk it doing something that is challenging and enjoyable than live in the kind of 'safe' and anaesthetised world you seem to want.