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Fully sick bolt wars at Araps 17-May-2016 At 2:10:50 PM Wendy

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On 17/05/2016 ambyeok wrote:
>Its presumptive of me but perhaps guide book or cliff care wouldnt mind
>stepping in to help the situation. Create a guide book addendum which has
>the topos marked up with blue zones which represent where discussion is
>required for new routing/bolting, and who and how to contact. Anything
>done without consultation gets chopped. Its not about creating an approval
>committee but about getting some discussion going on so that the wars are
>fought elsewhere than on the cliff with resulting damage. We are never
>going to all agree on what to bolt/route and where, but we should all be
>able to agree that you should talk/discuss before you act - anyone not
>willing to do that is arrogant, disrespectful and does not deserve to contribute
>to the cliff. This suggestion wouldnt solve anything, but it does give
>at least one clear rule and mandate i.e. chop anything put up without consultation.

What about rebolting anything chopped without consultation? I did the consulting in this scenario before the bolts went in and they went out without any consulting and a pile of abuse thrown at me when I suggested it would be nice to just talk to people if you have a problem their actions.